Final - England v New Zealand

[Uppercut]

Did England even bowl particularly well there? Not sure whether it’s a really tough pitch or NZ batting was shocking.

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Our death batting has been **** since Styris retired.

He was pretty gun looking back.

 

[Burner]

Did England even bowl particularly well there? Not sure whether it’s a really tough pitch or NZ batting was shocking.

Pitch getting really slow is the only explanation I can muster up. Doesn't account for missing and getting dismissed on full tossses though.

 

[Moss]

Didn't watch consistently but mostly bad execution at the death from NZ. Archer was terrific and hard to get away, but Santner ducking that last ball kind of summed it up.

Pitch looks quicker than the Old Trafford one so 240 not quite par here probably, though hopefully helpful conditions for new ball bowling. Would say England definite favourites, but if NZ perform to a similar level as they did Wednesday who knows.

 

[jcas0167]

Did England even bowl particularly well there? Not sure whether it’s a really tough pitch or NZ batting was shocking.

Woakes bowled well at the start, Plunkett bowled well jn the middle and Archer bowled well at the end. A lot of movement early. Pitch doesn't look that easy.

 

[Jezroy]

I reckon we’re 20 short. Boo. Really missed out on some of those full tosses. Going to have to bowl and field better than they did against India. Much deeper batting line up (apart from Jadeja).

 

[Howe_zat]

How did people find the youtube feed? Any big audio problems?

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Need to pull the pin on the all rounder position moving forward imo and only play one of Neesham or CDG.

 

[cnerd123]

Reckon NZ are a little bit short here

 

[91Jmay]

How did people find the youtube feed? Any big audio problems?

The commentators

 

[morgieb]

How did people find the youtube feed? Any big audio problems?

No real audio problems. I did notice your feed was quite a bit behind the live feed which made following both a bit difficult, but I could hear both of you fine.

 

[slippy888]

New Zealand middle order has been vulnerable for a long time to be honest and this what happen today.

 

[Bahnz]

After we set India 240, for whatever reason, I had an inkling that we had a chance. Don't feel that way today. We'll see. Brilliant bowling by Plunkett and well done by Archer, but I've gotta say a lot of those wickets at the death were to pretty garbage deliveries. As a few have noted, death hitting was always the critical weakness of this side. Missing an Anderson or an Elliot with the power to push us along at 8+ rpo at the death.

Still proud of them for making it this far. 2 successive world cup finals and #2 in the test rankings is something none of us could dreamed about a decade ago. Now c'mon Trenty and co, give us one more first hour of black magic to make this a World Cup to remember forever.

 

[Moss]

I reckon we’re 20 short. Boo. Really missed out on some of those full tosses. Going to have to bowl and field better than they did against India. Much deeper batting line up (apart from Jadeja).

Pretty much my feeling, even if there's a new ball burst similar to Wednesday England bat really deep. Hope NZ bowl and field like tigers one last time.

 

[Zinzan]

Time will tell, but is the pitch going to look entirely differently when England bat?

 

[The Hutt Rec]

After we set India 240, for whatever reason, I had an inkling that we had a chance. Don't feel that way today. We'll see. Brilliant bowling by Plunkett and well done by Archer, but I've gotta say a lot of those wickets at the death were to pretty garbage deliveries. As a few have noted, death hitting was always the critical weakness of this side. Missing an Anderson or an Elliot with the power to push us along at 8+ rpo at the death.

Still proud of them for making it this far. 2 successive world cup finals and #2 in the test rankings is something none of us could dreamed about a decade ago. Now c'mon Trenty and co, give us one more first hour of black magic to make this a World Cup to remember forever.

Was just about to post the same. I felt pretty confident at the innings break of the semi. Today I just feel deflated.

 

[Moss]

After we set India 240, for whatever reason, I had an inkling that we had a chance. Don't feel that way today. We'll see. Brilliant bowling by Plunkett and well done by Archer, but I've gotta say a lot of those wickets at the death were to pretty garbage deliveries. As a few have noted, death hitting was always the critical weakness of this side. Missing an Anderson or an Elliot with the power to push us along at 8+ rpo at the death.

Still proud of them for making it this far. 2 successive world cup finals and #2 in the test rankings is something none of us could dreamed about a decade ago. Now c'mon Trenty and co, give us one more first hour of black magic to make this a World Cup to remember forever.

Neesham looked the best out there in terms of being able to push the rate along, but was nipped out too soon. CdG having a real off day was a downer, but let's see what England have got now.

 

[slippy888]

Remove Roy and Bairstow early and have them 50-2 then New Zealand will be holding that world cup after 40 years of hurt.

 

[ImpatientLime]

lol at people writing this off

you've got movement through the air against hard handed openers and a very two paced pitch.

this is 50/50

 

[Hicheal Michael]

Clarke been pretty good on comms today imo.