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[tooextracool]

Flintoff dismissed Gilchrist in the Ashes by bowling round the wicket, having him bowled, caught in slip or slicing behind point.

So why dont we examine your little theory of how ODIs differ from tests.

3 stumps - check

Gilchrist batting - check

Flintoff bowling to Gilchrist - check

Slips - check (Flintoff bowled first change and Gilchrist opened)

Fieldsmen behind point - check

Theory is crap - check

and why dont we examine it the way a person with even the slightest knowledge would be able to do it.
number of slips in ODIs<<number of slips in test matches
attacking field positions in ODIs<<attacking field positions in test matches
number of overs in a spell in ODIs<<number of overs in test matches
flatness of wickets in ODIs>> flatness of wickets in test match cricket
TEC's theory>>socials theory

 

[Eclipse]

Gilly is not flintoffs bunny yet.

But toextracool is right that Gilchrist didn't dominate Flintoff in the super test.

 

[social]

and why dont we examine it the way a person with even the slightest knowledge would be able to do it.
number of slips in ODIs<<number of slips in test matches
attacking field positions in ODIs<<attacking field positions in test matches
number of overs in a spell in ODIs<<number of overs in test matches
flatness of wickets in ODIs>> flatness of wickets in test match cricket
TEC's theory>>socials theory

Or alternatively, the no. of slips you are given is a function of your effectiveness.

Given that Flintoff routinely went for 6 - 8 an over, they had to be taken out to stop boundaries.

As for the no. of overs, if Gilchrist was really Flintoff's bunny, that shouldnt have been a factor. Warne routinely dispatched Cullinan in a matter of balls not overs.

Flatness of wickets is compensated by white ball.

In other words:- excuses, excuses.

 

[tooextracool]

Or alternatively, the no. of slips you are given is a function of your effectiveness.

Given that Flintoff routinely went for 6 - 8 an over, they had to be taken out to stop boundaries..

which only amplifieds the difference between tests and ODIs.

As for the no. of overs, if Gilchrist was really Flintoff's bunny, that shouldnt have been a factor. Warne routinely dispatched Cullinan in a matter of balls not overs..

and you would do a good job explaining how michael atherton scored 113 against mcgrath in his 3 ODIs against him, and of course the fact that daryll cullinan has 6 50s against warne in ODIs. Gilchrists highest score in a regular test match against flintoff is 49. which says more than enough about how useless gilchrist was against him.

Flatness of wickets is compensated by white ball.

In other words:- excuses, excuses.

or rather you seem to be coming up with all sorts of excuses to save face. first you claimed that gilchrist hammered flintoff to all parts of the super test. now you claim that tests and odis arent different

 

[social]

which only amplifieds the difference between tests and ODIs.



and you would do a good job explaining how michael atherton scored 113 against mcgrath in his 3 ODIs against him, and of course the fact that daryll cullinan has 6 50s against warne in ODIs. Gilchrists highest score in a regular test match against flintoff is 49. which says more than enough about how useless gilchrist was against him.



or rather you seem to be coming up with all sorts of excuses to save face. first you claimed that gilchrist hammered flintoff to all parts of the super test. now you claim that tests and odis arent different

1. So Michael Vaughan, the captain that made an art form out of putting half his team on the boundary, is going to idly stand by watching Flintoff go at 7 per over in a test match? Yeah right, the guy utilised one-day fields for the entire Ashes series.

2. Gilchrist bats no differently in a test match to the way he bats in ODIs. Flintoff having the benefit of a new white ball, would be in at least as good a position to exploit any supposed hold over him.

3. Gilchrist had a poor Ashes series.

4. Huh? Ive made no excuses for Gilchrist. Dont need to, he rebounded from a poor Ashes to be man of the series.

You, on the other hand make the ludicrous excuse that all performances in that series should be discounted as only one side was interested. From where I'm sitting, subsequent performances by "World" players have shown that that match was a fair reflection of their present form.

 

[Jason_M]

Flintoff is all class, sure he got the better of Gilchrist but you don't see him talking it up, unlike somebody else we know....

 

[FBU]

McCullum

(dismissals in all forms of the game)

7 - Ntini, Anderson, Murali and Panesar
6 - Lee
5 - Gillespie, Steyn
4 - McGrath, Vaas, Hogg, Sidebottom, Khan
3 - Kallis, Smith, Broad, DSmith, Warne

In Tests Panesar has dismissed McCullum more times than anyone else. (6)