Exasperated Ranting

[TNT]

1st Test: South Africa v Australia at Centurion, Feb 12-15, 2014 | Cricket Scorecard | ESPN Cricinfo

Two Australian hundreds, verified flat track.

 

[Black_Warrior]

Dave Warner - Every time he bullies his way to a big hundred in one an half session, it annoys the hell out of me.
Just don't think he is a very good batsman and this is not about technique or aesthetics.

I value aesthetics but don't 'judge' batsmen by that. I don't enjoy watching Steve Smith bat, but I can see that he has some amazing qualities that allows him to be successful, firstly he has tremendous temperament, ability to work singles and find gaps, can play spin well, so despite all the 'ugliness' I don't necessarily mind the fact that he is averaging 57, even if the guys I personally prefer like KW, Kohli, AB are averaging less.

But Warner is a different beast. How can someone with such awful temperament, such limited skills as an opener score hundreds so easily and average 51?

People compare him with Sehwag but Sehwag had more to him as a batsman. His ability to play spin was second to none. Can't say the same for Warner but he has Sehwag like numbers

 

[Daemon]

Disagree with the temperament thing. He doesn't really try to punish good bowling but is pretty compact against it. Ruthless against non threatening quicks and puts them all in their place. Love it.

Sehwag had a much bigger issue in that regard. He just played the same game every time he batted, regardless of who was bowling at him and where he was playing. It works for both of them so \_/

 

[Hurricane]

I am eternally thankful to Trent boult for bowling him a peach to get him out on 250 as he was settling in to beat Lara's record. There are a couple of records that I really treasure. Bradman's average and Lara's highest score. I want someone really deserving to break it.

 

[Gob]

this is a thread where you put all your angry cricket related rants and vent anything you need to vent without being judged by the rest of the forum, because they're doing it too. er, hopefully.

feel free to delete this thread if it's a terrible idea, and please do not be dicks to other users for their rants.

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steve smith. this sounds so ridiculous but it pains me to watch him bat. some players are prone to poor shots or edginess when they're on 2. it's awful to have to watch smith flum around for 150. with all of these india one-dayers it's ridiculous to see a batsman be able to flick through square leg so cleanly and then the very next ball play the most disgusting agricultural hack you've seen. they say it's a "unique" technique. it's also a unique technique if i go out to bat and hold the blade and try to hit it with the stick but guess frickin' what it's not a good one. i struggle to even put reason to how he succeeds and dare i say it he can make a test match dull and boring to me; sure it is entertaining to some to see his strange technique at work but i find it just horrendously boring and unappealing, as well as the fact on the roady mcroads in australia once he's in it's rarely an even bat and ball contest, but that's a different rant.

more rants from me to come later about australian pitches, selectors, quotas, aggression and more but let's have a look at what the rest of cricketweb can dish up.

Worst thing Re Smith rants is that ****s actually thinking he is so unorthodox, has a strange technique and pretend like he invented the shuffling when he is not. He was some time back but his current set up is not that far of from someone like Amla. As for not being good to watch, well Smith hits Morne Morkel back over his head (unlike most of the straight bat plodders) for sixers in test cricket so i guess its as a good a time to say

Dave Warner - Every time he bullies his way to a big hundred in one an half session, it annoys the hell out of me.
Just don't think he is a very good batsman and this is not about technique or aesthetics.

I value aesthetics but don't 'judge' batsmen by that. I don't enjoy watching Steve Smith bat, but I can see that he has some amazing qualities that allows him to be successful, firstly he has tremendous temperament, ability to work singles and find gaps, can play spin well, so despite all the 'ugliness' I don't necessarily mind the fact that he is averaging 57, even if the guys I personally prefer like KW, Kohli, AB are averaging less.

But Warner is a different beast. How can someone with such awful temperament, such limited skills as an opener score hundreds so easily and average 51?

People compare him with Sehwag but Sehwag had more to him as a batsman. His ability to play spin was second to none. Can't say the same for Warner but he has Sehwag like numbers

lel at the bolded part.as for Virender well he can't play when the ball bounces over his penis or moves of the straight so yeah definitely much more to him

 

[indiaholic]

Yeah don't see why anybody would question Warner's skill level. Definitely has a very compact technique and the ruthlessness that is the sign of any great opening batsman.

 

[TheJediBrah]

Dave Warner - Every time he bullies his way to a big hundred in one an half session, it annoys the hell out of me.
Just don't think he is a very good batsman and this is not about technique or aesthetics.

I value aesthetics but don't 'judge' batsmen by that. I don't enjoy watching Steve Smith bat, but I can see that he has some amazing qualities that allows him to be successful, firstly he has tremendous temperament, ability to work singles and find gaps, can play spin well, so despite all the 'ugliness' I don't necessarily mind the fact that he is averaging 57, even if the guys I personally prefer like KW, Kohli, AB are averaging less.

But Warner is a different beast. How can someone with such awful temperament, such limited skills as an opener score hundreds so easily and average 51?

People compare him with Sehwag but Sehwag had more to him as a batsman. His ability to play spin was second to none. Can't say the same for Warner but he has Sehwag like numbers

huh

very interesting opinion to say the least

 

[Gob]

Disagree with the temperament thing. He doesn't really try to punish good bowling but is pretty compact against it. Ruthless against non threatening quicks and puts them all in their place. Love it.

Sehwag had a much bigger issue in that regard. He just played the same game every time he batted, regardless of who was bowling at him and where he was playing. It works for both of them so \_/

He could do that as well if wants to tbh. Never forget the way he treated Morkel in PE in the 2nd dig when Morkel was bowling beautifully. Don't think there is anyone currently playing who could've done that

 

[Shady Slim]

could come from the school of thought that openers should chew up balls to try to not expose the middle-lower order

like take that twenty off ten against the windies

i'd say to put it bluntly

that contribution is awful if the windies didn't suck and twenty off fifty would probably be much better (like providing of course the bowling team could bowl)

 

[TheJediBrah]

could come from the school of thought that openers should chew up balls to try to not expose the middle-lower order

like take that twenty off ten against the windies

i'd say to put it bluntly

that contribution is awful if the windies didn't suck and twenty off fifty would probably be much better (like providing of course the bowling team could bowl)

yeah but he doesn't score 20 off 10 every innings, failures happen to every opener. And it's better than a 10 ball duck that you might get from another opener regardless.

 

[Spark]

could come from the school of thought that openers should chew up balls to try to not expose the middle-lower order

like take that twenty off ten against the windies

i'd say to put it bluntly

that contribution is awful if the windies didn't suck and twenty off fifty would probably be much better (like providing of course the bowling team could bowl)

Think it's safe to say he'd play differently in this case.

I am eternally thankful to Trent boult for bowling him a peach to get him out on 250 as he was settling in to beat Lara's record. There are a couple of records that I really treasure. Bradman's average and Lara's highest score. I want someone really deserving to break it.

Hate statements like this so much. You get a record like that, you deserve it.

 

[Daemon]

I am eternally thankful to Trent boult for bowling him a peach to get him out on 250 as he was settling in to beat Lara's record. There are a couple of records that I really treasure. Bradman's average and Lara's highest score. I want someone really deserving to break it.

Not to worry, Smith would have declared when he was on 389*

 

[TheJediBrah]

Warner's a guy who really scores against good opposition, the opposite of a minnow-basher (not that Aus really play minnows in Tests).

He went out there against the Windies and you could tell he really didn't give a **** compared to how he played against NZ

 

[Gob]

man i so badly want Voges to break it now

 

[Spark]

man i so badly want Voges to break it now

It's elitist as crap, like saying that certain records should only be reserved for the ~right people~.

Nah. You score 400+, you deserve the record.

 

[Gob]

Out of interest i'd really like to know who that 'deserving guy' is. Not that hard to guess

 

[Shady Slim]

kieron pollard

 

[TheJediBrah]

Guptill obviously

 

[Spark]

Greg West

 

[MW1304]

Boo to the Smith backlash. I love watching him precisely because he looks so fidgety and awkward. There's something to a precise, elegant batsman like Amla, who I could watch step back and hit spinners through cover all day, but Smith looks like he could play an ugly slash at any moment yet manages to destroy world-class attacks on the regular. I can relate to that dissonance, it somehow makes him more relatable and kind of endearing, and not in that 'he's just a regular bloke and look he isn't even very athletic' thing that a Flintoff has but in a more real, understandable way to me personally. He isn't pretty, he isn't elegant and he looks like my neighbour's 12 year old kid, yet he is brutal and brash in kind of weird, uncool way and I can't help but root for him to keep doing what he's doing.

Edit: Should probably be in the Exasperated Gushing thread, apologies.