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England whinge about India tour itineray

Anil

Hall of Fame Member
I completely understand why India have done what they've done here, but I also completely understand why England are complaining.

What I don't understand is why anyone would pain England as the bad guys as this situation. If India came to England and played two Tests at Southampton and Cardiff, followed by ODIs at Bristol, Guildford, Chester-le-Street, Taunton, New Road, Grace Road and Chelmsford, the BCCI would be furious. So would Cricket Australia, or any other national cricket organisation.

Just another portent of the eventual East-West split in world cricket, unfortunately.
are any or all of these international venues with reasonably large stadiums and good facilities? then the indians wouldn't have anything to complain about...else there could be complaints and justified ones as well, however the ecb doesn't really have a leg to stand on as far as arguments over the indian venues go....
 

Sanz

Hall of Fame Member
Overreaction there mate. It's not a big deal, boards whinge to each other all the time.
I am not really concerned about the Boards whinnings. I just found some of the opinions really stupid and at times ignorant, esp from those who claim to be world travellers and take extra care to not offend others.

Cant speak for other cities, except Jamshedpur. Grew up there, it has a beautiful stadium, one Airport, One 3-4 star Hotel and tons of delux hotels which are pretty good.

If that aint good enough, then I guess they should just forget touring India.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
wasn't the moaning last time due to a lot of travelling back and forth rather than a more logical movement round the country?
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
:laugh: Do you even know what the CCI is? It's the Brabourne Stadium. It has hosted 17 test matches is one of the most historic stadiums in Indian cricket.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brabourne_Stadium
Err, yes, I do know what it is, don't start bringing out the Wiki. I'm well aware of the history of the CCI, but it is not a high-profile venue any more. The Wankhede is far more, and yes, I realise it's unavailable - so just leave Mumbai off the agenda if so.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I feel they're entitled to bitch about the Asian takeover, and we're entitled to roll our eyes :D
Far more people looking for the excuse to go off about complaints about "Asian takeovers" than actual complaints, in my experience.

By-and-large, though, both parties can be described as looking to think along stereotype lines rather than realities.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Err, yes, I do know what it is, don't start bringing out the Wiki. I'm well aware of the history of the CCI, but it is not a high-profile venue any more. The Wankhede is far more, and yes, I realise it's unavailable - so just leave Mumbai off the agenda if so.
ECB would flip out even more if they left Mumbai off the agenda completely.
 

GIMH

Norwood's on Fire
This tour is already shaping up to be one of the least anticipated in recent memory, I bet it will be a belter
 

Jungle Jumbo

International Vice-Captain
I can't see why they're complaining about playing at the CCI, which is as good - if not a better - venue than the Wankhede. I do feel for the fans though, given that we're one of the few countries that takes any fans anywhere, and they have to be dragged around a few Indian backwaters.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
Whether that's true or not in this case... the Chepauk is still a more prominent stadium than the CCI.

The ECB are hardly going to be moaning about not playing at the Wankhede, given it's unavailable. You'd imagine if they're not happy playing at the Brabourne, they'd prefer Mumbai to have been left-out.
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
Whether that's true or not in this case... the Chepauk is still a more prominent stadium than the CCI.

The ECB are hardly going to be moaning about not playing at the Wankhede, given it's unavailable. You'd imagine if they're not happy playing at the Brabourne, they'd prefer Mumbai to have been left-out.
I don't think Mumbai was the venue they were complaining about. It's the easiest the travel to for both English fans and has some of the best facilities.
 

superkingdave

Hall of Fame Member
yeah, reports from what i've seen have been of the tone that playing at CCI was the one big positive of the schedule
 

SJS

Hall of Fame Member
The itinerary is a goddamn joke.

A Test series of less than three is pointless and more than 5 odi's is overkill.

BCCI is just interested in distributing bones/goodies to their local units (after all they vote and elect the Pawars to their jobs) and the good of the game be damned.

Someone needs to call the BCCI's bluff just once but who will do it.

If Australia, England, New Zealand and South Africa really wanted, they could force a showdown but I dont think they have the guts.

The boot is firmly on the other foot. MCC and now ICC are being treated with the disdain they had for the 'lesser' players. But it was wrong when unilaterism/musclepower was practiced by MCC and ICC and it is equally bad when it is done by BCCI and the Asian block.

This is just another sign of what I was saying in the thread on radical proposals for Tests. No one cares if Tests die, not the administrators, not the majority of fans in Asia and , one suspects, due to the huge sums involved, nor do the players.
 

Dissector

International Debutant
Err, yes, I do know what it is, don't start bringing out the Wiki. I'm well aware of the history of the CCI, but it is not a high-profile venue any more. The Wankhede is far more, and yes, I realise it's unavailable - so just leave Mumbai off the agenda if so.
:laugh: You said that the CCI "never has been" a frontline stadium. That is such an obviously false statement that you clearly had no clue what you were talking about. As explained repeatedly the Brabourne is in almost every way a better stadium than Wankehede. And Bombay is obviously a very convenient city for England fans. There isn't a shred of evidence that the ECB is complaining about using the Brabourne instead of the Wankhede as opposed to the rest of the itenary. This is just another of your bizarre arguments and as far as I can tell not a single other English poster is complaing about Brabourne either.
 

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