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England in New Zealand 28 Nov-18 Dec 2024 - 3 Tests

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
Are NZ unlikely to play a frontline spinner?
Intriguing one - Stead has always liked to play Santner, even when he was averaging 45 per wicket and not scoring runs. Now he's a match winner, and has made 3 reasonable contributions with the bat. But if you play Santner at 8, it's three seamers, with Daryl Mitchell's very un-useable wobblies as a 4th. I don't think Santner in NZ conditions worries England at all.

Team I'd love to see: Latham, Conway, KW, Rachin, Mitchell, Phillips, Blundell, Smith, Henry, O'Rourke, Duffy.

The team I will see has Southee instead, and honestly I'm not sure whether Stead goes for Santner, or a fourth seamer...which I'd love to be Smith but will probably be Duffy, who I honestly think will come in and do well. Sears is a massive loss, given how he bowled - and competed - against Australia last year.
 

thundaboult

International Debutant
If they boot southee out, which won't happen, pretty easy to see either duffy or nathan smith come in. Both have contracts. Tickner is done.

For the love of god can we just play a proper spinner each n every single game irrespective of conditions? Don't tell me we're going to reward santner's performance of the ages by dropping him for all home and away tours with swing/seam conditions. We did ajaz dirty after 2021 mumbai and hoping we don't repeat that with sants.
 

SteveNZ

Cricketer Of The Year
what f he leaves GP out and bats Santner 7, Southee 8 and plays your 3 other seamers?
I wouldn't be a fan of that, but I didn't just coach a side to a historic win in India, I guess.

If you're looking at match-ups, Duckett and Stokes are the LHers, Duckett you wouldn't expect Phillips to have to bowl to so often. So maybe Phillips' offies aren't as viable for a middle order with one LHer and a bunch of guys who will really fancy taking to GP (Root, Brook etc). The LA option does look pretty reasonable given England's RH strike power, but you're asking Santner to do a massive job on seam-friendly wickets at Hagley, the Basin and not sure what Seddon does now. The weather in NZ has been pretty average, apparently it's the El Nina (?) pattern coming in which brings rain/humidity.

Santner is too high at 7, as is Blundell at 6 with his form. Mitchell isn't in good nick at 5, either. It's definitely an option and there is merit to it, but you're putting significant pressure on the top order to provide the runs, and even then two of the seamers are going to be a end of the road Southee and a debutant seamer in either Duffy or Smith.
 

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