ECB presents 100-ball domestic game for men and women

[trundler]

It'd help if you explained why.

 

[Howe_zat]

None of us are the audience for this, so why should they give a toss what we think?

The only thing I'm a bit perplexed by is who exactly the audience is supposed to be.

 

[GotSpin]

The problem with this kind of experiment is that doesn't really attract any kind of new audience. In fact, it'll probably only serve to alienate the dwindling existing audience.

It's a strange phenomenon with cricket administrators. They seem to have so little faith in the game that they grew up loving.

It's just stupid to think Cricket is some overly complex sport that no one can understand in its current format. I work with kids part time. It's seriously simple.

IMO there's a fairly easy recipe to grow the popularity of Cricket. Feel free to correct me as I'm not actually English though

1. Put Cricket on FTA - Sacrifice short term moneys for long term exposure

2. Build a strong and healthy national team

3. Stop going to war with the counties and instead, cooperate with them

 

[cnerd123]

It'd help if you explained why.

To start with, this tournament already has bad PR because by saying they're marketing a 'simplified' version of cricket to 'women and kids', you are implying that it's only men who are capable of understanding and appreciating the complexity of 'proper' cricket. As tho women and kids are too dumb for it. If this goes underway, expect a lot of the recreational outrage crowd to pick on this

Secondly, this tournament is not a gateway to proper cricket. You can see how T20 leads to Fifty Over and Test matches because it's the same basic game just shorter. This is functionally different. If someone wraps their head around this (because it's not actually easier), and decides they way to watch the mainstream versions, you're going to want them to learn a new ruleset again? You're going to explain to them that actual cricket has 6 ball overs, and you can't bowl back to back overs no matter what?

Thirdly, if a regular T20 tournament fails, no big deal. If you invent a whole new ruleset, and still fail? It makes the leadership of cricket look like a mess. You don't trust your sport as it is, and you try to 'improve' it, and you still fail?

Gimmicks are fine but not all gimmicks are harmless.

 

[trundler]

To start with, this tournament already has bad PR because by saying they're marketing a 'simplified' version of cricket to 'women and kids', you are implying that it's only men who are capable of understanding and appreciating the complexity of 'proper' cricket. As tho women and kids are too dumb for it. If this goes underway, expect a lot of the recreational outrage crowd to pick on this

Secondly, this tournament is not a gateway to proper cricket. You can see how T20 leads to Fifty Over and Test matches because it's the same basic game just shorter. This is functionally different. If someone wraps their head around this (because it's not actually easier), and decides they way to watch the mainstream versions, you're going to want them to learn a new ruleset again? You're going to explain to them that actual cricket has 6 ball overs, and you can't bowl back to back overs no matter what?

Thirdly, if a regular T20 tournament fails, no big deal. If you invent a whole new ruleset, and still fail? It makes the leadership of cricket look like a mess. You don't trust your sport as it is, and you try to 'improve' it, and you still fail?

Gimmicks are fine but not all gimmicks are harmless.

Well the PR thing is on Strauss and not the format itself but I get what you're saying about the different rules.

 

[Spikey]

I still hate this whole thing but that certainly sounds slightly less bad.

they were so close to doing The Good Thing but they chickened out

(no over restrictions)

 

[Spikey]

feel like they shouldn't launch this comp in the year 2020

 

[S.Kennedy]

The ECB will also piss away billions of money, money derived from the profits of English cricket, on something which is basically doomed to fail, such is the backclash from fans and players alike, when the money could be given to the preexisting structure/grass roots.

Unless this mythical ''new'' audience of, hitherto cricket-haters, suddenly becomes enamoured with the thing?

The ECB are probably launching the first sporting competition aimed at people who hate the sport!

 

[marc71178]

You really think they've got Billions?

 

[Prince EWS]

they were so close to doing The Good Thing but they chickened out

(no over restrictions)

Haha I'd almost like to see them go the other way given how much of a gimmick this is and make the maximum overs two instead.

 

[Borges]

These guys are deliberately leaking out stuff at well-timed intervals to stoke the fire when the debate among the crowd that is not interested in it is about to die a natural death.
The marketing wizards do realise that best way to attract the attention of a new target audience for cricket is to whip up a frenzy among the existing audience so that their cacophony becomes louder and more widely heard.

 

[Daemon]

Not untrue. I will certainly pay more attention to this in the hopes of loling at it as a failure than if it was just another T20 competition.

 

[ajdude]

Haha I'd almost like to see them go the other way given how much of a gimmick this is and make the maximum overs two instead.

this idea wouldn’t work in terms of time saving (mainly regarding changing fields) but i wouldn’t mind seeing it go completely bonkers and just have 5 changes of end per innings, with the captain being able to choose anybody to deliver any given delivery, thereby removing the overs concept entirely haha

 

[S.Kennedy]

You really think they've got Billions?

Well, I'm exaggerating. I read a few years' ago that they've about 90 million ''in case the Queen dies during the cricket season, and they have to cancel fixtures''. Much of it is stuffed away in the UAE to evade tax.

 

[Mr Miyagi]

Well, I'm exaggerating. I read a few years' ago that they've about 90 million ''in case the Queen dies during the cricket season, and they have to cancel fixtures''. Much of it is stuffed away in the UAE to evade tax.

Long live King Chuck (not a finger spinner as far as I know).

 

[S.Kennedy]

What happened was the players, (PCA) players' cricket association, revolted over the ten ball over. The players basically said, ''we are not going to play this competition'', and there won't be much cricket without the players. There was this big media silence whilst these arguments were going on, and the ECB were re-thinking.

And this is what they've come up with!

 

[Borges]

The players basically said, ''we are not going to play this competition'', and there won't be much cricket without the players.

They should just scrap the low quality division 2 county cricket being played by losers like Burham (or is it Durham?).
A lot of players then would then have no option other than to play this new stuff; not many of them are then going to carry on with saying:
''we are not going to play this competition'' etc.

 

[S.Kennedy]

They should just scrap the low quality division 2 county cricket being played by losers like Burham (or is it Durham?).
A lot of players then would then have no option other than to play this new stuff; not many of them are then going to carry on with saying:
''we are not going to play this competition'' etc.

Poor Trolling. Try again next time.

(Although it might interest you to know there is a proposal to ditch the two divisions, replacing them with a conference system: https://www.thecricketer.com/Topics...unty_cricket_ready_for_conference_season.html)

 

[marc71178]

Well, I'm exaggerating. I read a few years' ago that they've about 90 million ''in case the Queen dies during the cricket season, and they have to cancel fixtures''. Much of it is stuffed away in the UAE to evade tax.

That’s down to £28m cash as at the end of March and they’ve made losses of £37m in 2017 and £30m in 2018.

 

[TheJediBrah]

They should just scrap the low quality division 2 county cricket being played by losers like Burham (or is it Durham?).
A lot of players then would then have no option other than to play this new stuff; not many of them are then going to carry on with saying:
''we are not going to play this competition'' etc.

Imagining living in a place called "Durham"