deeps said:
yup the pitches are very batsman orientated, and it is not a good thing for the future of cricket. The quality of bowling is going to rapidly decrease, as no1 will have played a green top and will not know how to exploit the conditions.
We've seen players from the past have to face top quality bowling, and make scores... If you think back, you can think of many many bowlers that were great... Of the current bunch of bowlers, who would be remembered as great in 50 years time? Mcgrath, Warne, muralitharan...........
In steve waughs almost 20 year career, he made 15 of his 32 centuries after 1999. His first years were spent batting like greats in Ambrose and Walsh, and other speed demons from west indies, as well as wasim and waqar, donald and pollock in their prime and to a lesser extent gough and caddick etc.
Now people like Hayden come along, and are making 380 against nothing bowlers and gettin big credit for it. Inflated averages etc. 20 years ago, not many batsman would have an average of over 50, but now it's becoming common.
There is a reason why many batsman failed earlier in the careers and are very successful now..and it is not just because they have become more wise...
mmm...well I dont really see a problem with bat dominating ball so long as we continue to get result matches. The number of drawn games has fallen dramatically over the last few years...which suggests that teams are taking 20 wickets in a match more often than they ever have done. Batsmen these days hit the half hittable ball, years ago, any amount of risk was eliminated by leaving the ball alone. This has meant strike rates for batsmen have risen...but I would actually say that maybe a bowlers strike rate (ie balls per wicket) is probably the same as it always has been, or maybe even improved slightly.
Batsmen may take a few more risks these days,which might mean wickets are taken more often, but to be honest I think 20 years ago (or longer) batsmen just werent as aggressive as they could have been, so batsmen probably batted for the same amount of time back then, but just didnt cash in as much.
I dont know the reason for this, however I think these days, teams are more likely to attempt to win games...a few years ago, teams tried to aviod defeat, if the by-product of that was victory, then that was a bonus..therefore we get more runs per over,with the same number of wickets taken.
And that for me is fine..its more entertainment for the crowds, which encouurages more people to play. Test cricket is all the better for it.
I dont think a rise in averages for batsmen and bowlers is really down to one particular thing though...I think the lack of top quality pace bowling these days is blown a bit out of proportion,outside the WI's in the 80's there werent really that many very good pace bowlers in the world.....I dont think pitches are THAT MUCH flattter than they have been previously, I think we probably see less 'green top' pitches, but really there werent that many bacthen...I do think we also underplay how good the batsmen are these days, I think we are in a time , which in say 30 years time, we will look back and think how lucky we are to have been able to watch all these great batsmen.
Deeps , you say that the quality of bowling will decrease if no-one gets to play of green tops...not true...pitches heavily favouring fast bowling do no-one any favours...bowlers dont have to work for wickets. The only way to increase bowling standards is to play on good pitches, pitches with a bit of pace, which will encourage faster bowlers who bowl it in the right places, and encourage batsmen to go for their shots and make runs