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Don Bradman vs Garry Sobers

Who is the better test cricketer?

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kyear2

kyear2

International Coach
Sir Garfield Sobers

Arguably the 2nd greatest batsman of all time, arguably a top 5 slip fielder of all time, the most versatile and greatest relief bowler of all time.

Don't expect him to win though.
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
I really don't care. As it's almost impossible to accurately determine exactly how good Bradman really was. Doesn't mean you can't appreciate him. He's the aspirational model for every great batsman that came after him.

But it does mean his contemporaries and especially predecessors were all dog water, by the way. Regardless of how that conclusion hurts ones feelings.
 
Coronis

Coronis

International Coach
shortpitched713 said:
I really don't care. As it's almost impossible to accurately determine exactly how good Bradman really was. Doesn't mean you can't appreciate him. He's the aspirational model for every great batsman that came after him.

But it does mean his contemporaries and especially predecessors were all dog water, by the way. Regardless of how that conclusion hurts ones feelings.
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You’re getting more and more pathetic.
 
smash84

smash84

The Tiger King
shortpitched713 said:
I really don't care. As it's almost impossible to accurately determine exactly how good Bradman really was. Doesn't mean you can't appreciate him. He's the aspirational model for every great batsman that came after him.

But it does mean his contemporaries and especially predecessors were all dog water, by the way. Regardless of how that conclusion hurts ones feelings.
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There was barely a 6 year difference between the Don's retirement and Sobers debut. I am at a loss to understand how you reach that conclusion.

"Modern" cricket (for lack of a better word) became a lot more professional in the 1970s with Kerry Packer. the 50s and 60s were pretty tame, except for new teams coming into international cricket. But those early teams were by no means developed like the English or Australian ones.
 
smash84

smash84

The Tiger King
The Don has almost 2/3rd higher output than Sobers.

I don't see how Sobers gets the nod ahead of him.
 
shortpitched713

shortpitched713

International Captain
smash84 said:
There was barely a 6 year difference between the Don's retirement and Sobers debut. I am at a loss to understand how you reach that conclusion.

"Modern" cricket (for lack of a better word) became a lot more professional in the 1970s with Kerry Packer. the 50s and 60s were pretty tame, except for new teams coming into international cricket. But those early teams were by no means developed like the English or Australian ones.
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There were significant improvements in quality during that time.

New countries, improving pay, improving techniques and evolution. And a lot of it too.

Bradman was the best by far in terms of performance, I'm not insane enough to say otherwise. But he's human, and so there must be something there that's "off" on a systemic basis to explain some or a large part of a lone outlier which is so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so extreme.
 
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