DoG's Top 100 Test Batsmen Countdown Thread

[ankitj]

29 tests is too few to dissect home vs. away. Also, unlike G. Pollock and G. Headley, Nurse doesn't have a stellar first class record.

 

[Days of Grace]

29 tests is too few to dissect home vs. away. Also, unlike G. Pollock and G. Headley, Nurse doesn't have a stellar first class record.

How many innings is enough, do you think?

Who cares about first class record in this exercise?

 

[ankitj]

Just trying to come up with an explanation for why Nurse doesn't have a huge reputation

 

[Days of Grace]

No.59

Colin Cowdrey (England) 727

Quality Points: 655
Career Points: 72

Career/Runs: 1954-1975, 7624 (rank 18)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 43.44 (44.06) 39.98 (40.55) 46.38 (39.03) (rank 92)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1962-1966): 57.97 46.38 50.20 (rank 66)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.99 40.94 43.86 (rank 64)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 37.38 35.12 45.35 (rank 172)

 

[Days of Grace]

No.58

Sir Frank Worrell (West Indies) 728

Quality Points: 685
Career Points: 43

Career/Runs: 1948-1963, 3860 (rank 116)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 47.59 (49.48) 42.67 (44.37) 50.29 (42.38) (rank 40)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1962-1966): 52.08 47.92 51.33 (rank 84)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 44.81 41.95 53.99 (rank 54)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 40.40 36.61 50.00 (rank 110)

 

[stephen]

Cowdrey seems to suffer a lot in the quality opposition category.

 

[OverratedSanity]

**** me, I didn't know cowdrey played for that long.

 

[NotMcKenzie]

**** me, I didn't know cowdrey played for that long.

He was the first person to play 100 tests, I believe.

Even better, you can find footage of his first test here, and his last test here.

 

[Burgey]

Thommo nearly killed him in 74/75. Was not a fair fight.

 

[ankitj]

Cowdrey is ranked #18 on career/runs. Is that because of length of his career?

 

[AndrewB]

Nurse's away record is boosted by his final series in New Zealand, when (according to Clive Lloyd) most of the team just wanted to get home after an unsuccessful series in Australia; but Nurse (who'd announced that he was retiring after that series) ended his career with a flourish, scoring well over 500 runs in 3 matches.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.57

Stan McCabe (Australia) 730

Quality Points: 703
Career Points: 27

Career/Runs: 1930-1938, 2748 (rank 313)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.25 (48.21) 41.60 (44.32) 64.39 (61.07) (rank 46)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1930-1938): 51.06 46.98 63.21 (rank 81)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.23 43.75 69.59 (rank 11)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 46.13 42.91 65.00 (rank 36)

 

[Days of Grace]

Cowdrey is ranked #18 on career/runs. Is that because of length of his career?

Career length and runs are given equal weighting in the "career points".

 

[Days of Grace]

No.56

Peter May (England) 730

Quality Points: 690
Career Points: 40

Career/Runs: 1951-1961, 4537 (rank 143)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 46.55 (46.77) 42.60 (42.80) 47.98 (40.11) (rank 55)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1955-1959): 59.76 52.59 49.79 (rank 44)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 36.40 34.91 48.47 (rank 169)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 46.18 42.33 49.72 (rank 52)

 

[Cabinet96]

Random but was just going through the bowling thread again and realised you don't count UAE as home matches for Pakistan players. I wonder how high Younis Khan could be with that in mind.

Edit: Hmm he only averages 6.5 more in UAE than all his other away matches, so it bumps his non-home average up by about 2. Probably not as big a factor as I thought it might be.

 

[Days of Grace]

Yeah l just go with official cricinfo stats. They also count the UAE as “non-home.”

 

[Coronis]

Yeah l just go with official cricinfo stats. They also count the UAE as “non-home.”

Would be interesting to see if it changed many players ratings much.

 

[Days of Grace]

No.55

Ted Dexter (England) 736

Quality Points: 697
Career Points: 39

Career/Runs: 1958-1968, 4502 (rank 145)

Overall average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 45.60 (47.89) 42.03 (44.14) 56.41 (48.13) (rank 53)
50 Innings Peak Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate (1960-1962): 54.48 49.03 58.69 (rank 68)
Non-Home Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 50.20 44.97 55.45 (rank 19)
Quality Opposition Average/Runs per innings/Strike-rate: 41.17 40.31 58.11 (rank 81)

 

[stephen]

Both May and Dexter had a huge difference between peak and overall average.

 

[trundler]

Dexter ahead of May and Compo a surprise