Dennis Lillee vs Imran Khan

[Slifer]

Lillee and Roberts popularized fast bowling in the 70s but I would argue Imran as a bowler had more direct impact when it comes to mastering reverse swing and starting a pace revolution in Pakistan.

Agreed. Unfortunately, as is the case with Warne, cricket back in the day was very Anglo centric (England/Australia). Which is fair, seeing that they pretty much developed and popularized the sport.
Lillee did impart the ability to cut the ball etc to other bowlers of his generation , but that is no more impactful than what Imran (and Safraz) did with Pakistani bowlers and worldwide fast bowlers in general. Reverse swing, is probably the most revolutionary tool added to bowling since the googly.

 

[subshakerz]

Also, I am not sure some posters appreciate the degree to which Imran impacted fast bowling in the subcontinent. Before Imran's breakthrough 12 wickets in Australia in 1976, the idea of a high pace quality fast bowler coming from this region was almost seen as a biological impossibility. Nobody would want to aspire to bowl fast on wickets of baked mud. Yet from the 80s onwards, street cricket in Pakistan was dominated by kids trying to bowl high pace. Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib all wanted to be the next Imran.

Though to be fair, Imran was influenced to want to become a fast bowler rather than a medium pacer after watching Lillee. His transformation is one of cricket's great stories IMO.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Lindwall was probably better than trueman,larwood is the one after whom most judge fast bowlers by,had better bouncer than Marshall+was unquestionably one of the fastest of all time and is still one of the immortal fast bowlers to have ever lived.Larwood still has higher aura/reputation than any fast bowler ,till dk lillee era.

Why do you talk like a boomer but have the punctuation of a Gen Z?

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Also, I am not sure some posters appreciate the degree to which Imran impacted fast bowling in the subcontinent. Before Imran's breakthrough 12 wickets in Australia in 1976, the idea of a high pace quality fast bowler coming from this region was almost seen as a biological impossibility. Nobody would want to aspire to bowl fast on wickets of baked mud. Yet from the 80s onwards, street cricket in Pakistan was dominated by kids trying to bowl high pace. Wasim, Waqar and Shoaib all wanted to be the next Imran.

Though to be fair, Imran was influenced to want to become a fast bowler rather than a medium pacer after watching Lillee. His transformation is one of cricket's great stories IMO.

What sparked the tapeball revolution in Pakistan?

 

[_00_deathscar]

What sparked the tapeball revolution in Pakistan?

Poverty

 

[subshakerz]

What sparked the tapeball revolution in Pakistan?

Not sure. I remember using tapeball in street cricket because you can get the ball to swing more and create a big seam compared to a regular tennis ball.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

Not sure. I remember using tapeball im street cricket because you can get the bowl to swing more and create a big seam compared to a regular tennis ball.

Interesting, when I was growing up, we'd taped the rubber balls and hardly the tennis ones....when that **** hits you on the shin--- oucccchhhhh!

 

[subshakerz]

Interesting, when I was growing up, we'd taped the rubber balls and hardly the tennis ones....when that **** hits you on the shin--- oucccchhhhh!

Yeah, especially in the winter months, a hit on the shins would sting like crazy.

 

[srbhkshk]

What's truly torturous is getting your finger jammed between the ball and the bat in the winter.

 

[nightprowler10]

What sparked the tapeball revolution in Pakistan?

Surplus of electrical tape in Pakistan.

@Uppercut idea for a book.

 

[srbhkshk]

Surplus of electrical tape in Pakistan.

Primarily because there is no electricity so the tape is never needed.

Sorry.

 

[Pap Finn Keighl]

Lillee Top 6 Alltime
Imran Top 12

 

[subshakerz]

Lillee Top 6 Alltime
Imran Top 12

Imran easily in the top 6. Lillee between 6 - 10.

 

[_00_deathscar]

Imran easily in the top 6. Lillee between 6 - 10.

Nah Imran was a home bully, like Ashwin but worse.

 

[subshakerz]

Nah Imran was a home bully, like Ashwin but worse.

And Lillee of course was not, right?

 

[_00_deathscar]

And Lillee of course was not, right?

That's why they're both **** and Bumrah is the GOAT.

 

[CricAddict]

That is like saying Shane Warne re invented legspin.

He did. He made the art beautiful. And it is copied by several bowlers now.

Will watch Warne over someone like Kumble any day.

 

[SillyCowCorner1]

He did. He made the art beautiful. And it is copied by several bowlers now.

Will watch Warne over someone like Kumble any day.

Artistically speaking, Amit Mishra was the best after Warne...

 

[gftw]

Lillee Top 6 Alltime
Imran Top 12

So Akram is like 13 or lower?(since Akram was worse than Imran)

 

[ankitj]

Lindwall was probably better than trueman,larwood is the one after whom most judge fast bowlers by,had better bouncer than Marshall+was unquestionably one of the fastest of all time and is still one of the immortal fast bowlers to have ever lived.Larwood still has higher aura/reputation than any fast bowler ,till dk lillee era.

ok