CW's 50 Best ODI Cricketers of all time - The Countdown (2017 Version)

[honestbharani]

well... then it is also possible to argue that no bowler ever chucked. which is hard for me to accept. some bowlers chucked some time. some of them chucked more often. one of them owned a candy factory in srilanka.

Nope.. Totally wrong here.

 

[honestbharani]

Who's going to do this, because I wasn't planning to. Removing the worst isn't a good indication though as not being picked at all is worse than being picked in a low spot.

If you wanna share the details, I can do that.

 

[Jarquis]

Who's going to do this, because I wasn't planning to. Removing the worst isn't a good indication though as not being picked at all is worse than being picked in a low spot.

So it'd only effect players who made everyone's list?

 

[vcs]

My fondest Tendulkar memory from ODIs.

This is where it all began for him as an ODI GOAT, before he moved to the top of the order, he struggled to get 100s. After that, they started flowing at an unpredecented rate.

 

[marc71178]

If you wanna share the details, I can do that.

Hasn't everything you'd need been released already?

 

[OverratedSanity]

My favourite Sachin innings. The pickup six off McGrath at 1:10 is so ****ing good.

 

[vcs]

That was a class innings, I was so gutted when he got stumped off Mark Waugh.

 

[Daemon]

Hasn't everything you'd need been released already?

Yeah, I think all the points and the highest picks are out there, as well as the total number of people who voted (if it is the same as those that were counted?)

Only thing you'd need is the names and points of whoever was on the fringe, because they might sneak into the top 50.

 

[NUFAN]

So who does everyone think was the most unlucky?

51 through to 55

Haynes 25 (3 votes)
Lloyd 24 (5)
Afridi 23 (2)
Hayden 22 (2)
Cronje 21 (1)

For me it was Lloyd and Ganguly (12 points, 4 votes).

Inzaman received no votes.

 

[ankitj]

My favourite Sachin innings. The pickup six off McGrath at 1:10 is so ****ing good.

My favourite too. Nothing typifies India in 90s better than this. India if 62/2 in 12.4 overs in one of the frames there. Tendulkar st that stage of 52 in 44 balls.

 

[OverratedSanity]

So who does everyone think was the most unlucky?

51 through to 55

Haynes 25 (3 votes)
Lloyd 24 (5)
Afridi 23 (2)
Hayden 22 (2)
Cronje 21 (1)

For me it was Lloyd and Ganguly (12 points, 4 votes).

Inzaman received no votes.

Haynes and Ganguly imo. In the list of ODI players with most hundreds, they're both way up there. Should've made the top 50 here.

Yuvraj and Lloyd too pretty unlucky.

 

[Daemon]

My favourite Sachin innings. The pickup six off McGrath at 1:10 is so ****ing good.

Who's the cheating aussie at 2:00? He was literally lying outside the boundary rope and tried to claim he stopped the four. Cheating ****s.

 

[jaideep]

So who does everyone think was the most unlucky?

51 through to 55

Haynes 25 (3 votes)
Lloyd 24 (5)
Afridi 23 (2)
Hayden 22 (2)
Cronje 21 (1)

For me it was Lloyd and Ganguly (12 points, 4 votes).

Inzaman received no votes.

I think minimum of 10% votes(3 votes in this case since total number of voters was 29) for eligibility in top 50 could have been adopted.Anyway its too late for any suggestions.

 

[NUFAN]

I think minimum of 10% votes(3 votes in this case since total number of voters was 29) for eligibility in top 50 could have been adopted.Anyway its too late for any suggestions.

This is definitely one of those things that someone suggests after the fact when in reality I believe there was only 53 players who received 3 or more votes - that's very risky.

Anyway, I think the list overall is good. No complaints from me, particularly at the top.

 

[Daemon]

Thanks for running this NUFAN, enjoyed it a lot.

 

[honestbharani]

Hasn't everything you'd need been released already?

EDIT: Nvm.. I assume I can just knock off the highest rating alone. Let me try it in sometime.

 

[stephen]

Well done Nufan. Great effort running this and the list is pretty decent barring a couple of names. But you can't be blamed for that. I can for not voting.

I think a list like this would work better if the number you could vote for was the number selected. You could also ensure outliers were nullified by using (median + mean) / 2. Mean and median would assume zero points for players not picked. This way more popular players would be picked ahead of players who had been strategically voted.

 

[Lillian Thomson]

Who's going to do this, because I wasn't planning to. Removing the worst isn't a good indication though as not being picked at all is worse than being picked in a low spot.

When I made the original suggestion about removing the best/worst it was based the old Olympic scoring idea. But in that instance removing the worst was beneficial. But it only works it you have to place a vote for everyone in a list. For example if you were just ranking 50 names in order someone could put Viv last to boost Tendulkar's chances of finishing at number 1. Removing the best is still a worthwhile exercise just out of curiosity (primarily to remove Harvey and Bracken from the Top 50. )

 

[honestbharani]

I did do a re-rank but it does not change the top 14 at all. The first change happens at #15 with Kapil Dev going down a spot and Zulu Klusener gaining one. Here is the full list. The last column is the reworked ranking after removing the best vote.

Current CW Rank	Name	Team	Points	Highest Ranking	Modified Points	Modified CW Rank
1	Viv Richards	West Indies	666	1	642	1
2	Wasim Akram	Pakistan	530	2	507	2
3	Sachin Tendulkar	India	525	1	501	3
4	Glenn McGrath	Australia	509	3	487	4
5	Joel Garner	West Indies	470	2	447	5
6	MS Dhoni	India	448	2	425	6
7	AB De Villiers	South Africa	438	3	416	7
8	Michael Bevan	Australia	419	1	395	8
9	Muttiah Muralitharan	Sri Lanka	398	1	374	9
10	Adam Gilchrist	Australia	387	2	364	10
11	Virat Kohli	India	355	3	333	11
12	Ricky Ponting	Australia	343	3	321	12
13	Sanath Jayasuriya	Sri Lanka	283	2	260	13
14	Shaun Pollock	South Africa	184	6	165	14
16	Lance Klusener	South Africa	171	9	155	15
15	Kapil Dev	India	176	4	155	16
17	Curtly Ambrose	West Indies	162	2	139	17
18	Brian Lara	West Indies	159	1	135	18
20	Saqlain Mushtaq	Pakistan	145	8	128	19
19	Shane Warne	Australia	145	6	126	20
22	Richard Hadlee	New Zealand	127	8	110	21
23	Dean Jones	Australia	123	11	109	22
21	Andrew Flintoff	England	128	3	106	23
25	Mitchell Starc	Australia	119	6	100	24
24	Michael Hussey	Australia	120	5	100	25
27	Allan Donald	South Africa	110	7	92	26
26	Waqar Younis	Pakistan	111	3	89	27
28	Imran Khan	Pakistan	100	5	80	28
29	Shane Watson	Australia	89	4	68	29
31	Zaheer Abbas	Pakistan	77	9	61	30
30	Andrew Symonds	Australia	79	6	60	31
32	Michael Holding	West Indies	66	4	45	32
33	Malcolm Marshall	West Indies	61	5	41	33
38	Brett Lee	Australia	49	13	37	34
40	Saeed Anwar	Pakistan	45	16	36	35
36	Dennis Lillee	Australlia	56	4	35	36
37	Kumar Sangakkara	Sri Lanka	51	8	34	37
34	Mark Waugh	Australia	57	2	34	38
35	Nathan Bracken	Australia	56	1	32	39
41	Jacques Kallis	South Africa	43	13	31	40
39	Hashim Amla	South Africa	47	9	31	41
43	Gordon Greenidge	West Indies	41	13	29	42
42	Shane Bond	New Zealand	42	7	24	43
49	Javed Miandad	Pakistan	29	15	19	44
48	Aravinda De Silva	Sri Lanka	29	15	19	45
45	Jonty Rhodes	South Africa	34	8	17	46
44	Ian Harvey	Australia	40	2	17	47
46	Chris Gayle	West Indies	33	7	15	48
47	Andy Roberts	West Indies	30	7	12	49
50	Greg Chappell	Australia	27	8	10	50

If Nuffers is willing to share more details, I can try out other methodologies.

 

[honestbharani]

Yeah, I think all the points and the highest picks are out there, as well as the total number of people who voted (if it is the same as those that were counted?)

Only thing you'd need is the names and points of whoever was on the fringe, because they might sneak into the top 50.

Where?