Curtly Ambrose vs Sunil Gavaskar

[Coronis]

Why do you all do this, lol

It can be fun to watch you get passionate sometimes. We like to make sure you don’t miss potential slander of one of your boys.

 

[Johan]

Ambrose slander is crazy work ngl

 

[kyear2]

Unhelpful is a big stretch.

Mixed.

 

[subshakerz]

It can be fun to watch you get passionate sometimes. We like to make sure you don’t miss potential slander of one of your boys.

In other words, confirming your theory he has an extra soft spot for WI players.

 

[kyear2]

It can be fun to watch you get passionate sometimes. We like to make sure you don’t miss potential slander of one of your boys.

Thing is that I really admire Donald as well, and feel like he's overlooked a lot here in conversation.

Wouldn't rate him over Ambrose, their careers overlapped enough and the consensus during their playing days was somewhat almost unanimous. You're free to disagree of course.

But after that, he's pretty much on par or ahead of Imran, Lillee, Wasim, Holding and Garner etc.

 

[subshakerz]

Ambrose slander is crazy work ngl

It ain't slander.

 

[kyear2]

Ambrose slander is crazy work ngl

I imagine it's coming from the same source as always.

He does have his, ummmmm, let go with mandate.

 

[kyear2]

It all comes down to style and m.o.

Yeah, Steyn and Donald both went for it, loved to watch both in full flow.

But that doesn't diminish the skills and effectiveness of guys like McGrath and Ambrose.

There are times when control is required and pressure does often lead to wickets. Need a mix of both.

 

[subshakerz]

Lol as if we are arguing against Ambrose's style.

Kyear talks big but end of the day he would agree with my points begrudgingly. Sad he has lost the stones to debate it though.

 

[Bolo.]

what was Donald's home series not at 100%

The bulk of impact of injuries over the course of a career typically doesn't come from a poor series or two directly after injury. It's the loss of pace that the injury causes that impacts the rest of the career.

Almost all the best express/fast bowlers from the era turned into shadows of themselves when their pace dropped post injury. Waqar, Bishop, Pollock, Ambrose, and Akram (if you want to equate diabetes with injury).

Walsh avoided major injury, and stayed good (and quick) to a crazy old age. Donald avoided it until very late career, and also did a pretty good job of maintaining pace late. He did play most of his career at an age when pace is naturally dropping though