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Current Big 4 test all rounders.

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BSM

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Interesting to note that Stokes has a better strike rate bowling wise. Holder's is north of 60 which is fairly unimpressive for a main bowler(though countered by his decent economy rate and average) Think the least you could say is that Stokes is as much a better batsmen than Holder as Holder is a better bowler than Stokes. Don't think there is much in it either way, but I think I'd prefer Stokes as my premier all-rounder, though I accept that this isn't really an impartial view
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

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I would rate Stokes above Holder as an all-rounder overall but its very very close between them. Stokes has done it for a bit longer than Holder and that is the only reason I would rate him above him.
 
Daemon

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Stokes better imo. Holder doesn’t have a lot of runs or wickets at this stage.
 
Prince EWS

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Holder's a better bowler than Stokes but I think Stokes is a better bat by a similar margin, and Stokes has that whole enigmatic high impact allrounder quality to him that Holder doesn't. I tend to value that a bit less than most people but I don't value it at zero. I think they're pretty close but I'd definitely be taking Stokes.

What holds me back from really rating Holder is the fact that away from home he still averages 20 with the bat and 41 with the ball. It's a bit of a technicality because he cleaned up in "neutral" UAE and averages mid 30s with the ball if you count that as away cricket, but his batting record is still pretty terrible and the bowling record even with the UAE included is meh at best. He hasn't played a lot of Tests as an allrounder yet so I'm looking forward to seeing where his record is sitting in a couple of years, but as it stands he's not Stokes level.
 
Daemon

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Prince EWS said:
Holder's a better bowler than Stokes but I think Stokes is a better bat by a similar margin, and Stokes has that whole enigmatic high impact allrounder quality to him that Holder doesn't. I tend to value that a bit less than most people but I don't value it at zero. I think they're pretty close but I'd definitely be taking Stokes.

What holds me back from really rating Holder is the fact that away from home he still averages 20 with the bat and 41 with the ball. It's a bit of a technicality because he cleaned up in "neutral" UAE and averages mid 30s with the ball if you count that as away cricket, but his batting record is still pretty terrible and the bowling record even with the UAE included is meh at best. He hasn't played a lot of Tests as an allrounder yet so I'm looking forward to seeing where his record is sitting in a couple of years, but as it stands he's not Stokes level.
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interesting stuff pews would like to see how they get on in cpl
 
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