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Cummins vs Bumrah

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  • Bumrah

    Votes: 22 37.9%

  • Cummins

    Votes: 36 62.1%
  • Total voters
    58
Line and Length

Line and Length

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straw man said:
Unlikely, but do tell. Because it sounds like you're unthinkingly parroting 'and yet you use fossil fuels - I Am Very Smart'. Personally, I am sick to death of such exhaustingly cynical bull**** everywhere I look.

It's amazing how much hatred is stirred up against Cummins for daring to have an opinion. By the free speech warriors, of course.
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If Cummins actually practised what he preached I wouldn't have a problem. I'm not parroting anyone - I formed my opinion at the time he came out with his comments about sponsorship. I don't hate Cummins and I haven't witnessed any comments that remotely resemble hatred.
Sport has a long history of receiving, and even depending on, sponsorship. The tobacco and alcohol industries were heavily involved in the past and now gambling companies are involved. Where do we draw the line? If we are going to object to sponsorship by the mining and energy sector, what about the industries, such as the automotive industry, when they are reliant on mining and energy.
 
Burgey

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Migara said:
Enlighten the lay audience please.
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L&L is unhappy because Pat Cummins has said he won't appear in ads for the fossil fuel company which is sponsoring the test side, but has the temerity - the absolute gall - to drive a petrol fueled car.

Or something.

I'm sure if he refused to wear a pride cap, L&L would rate him a freedom fighter.
 
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Line and Length said:
If we are going to object to sponsorship by the mining and energy sector, what about the industries, such as the automotive industry, when they are reliant on mining and energy.
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Why can't he object to it? In Aus we call it sponsorship. When it's overseas we call it sports washing.

Alinta is sponsoring the cricket side because they want the positives which come from being associated with the side's image. A big part of the side's image atm is Cummins as skipper. If he doesn't' want to be associated with them, why should he have to? Should Khawaja have to be seen guzzling a VB because they sponsor the side? No, they've made an exception for him re alcohol because of his beliefs. How is this any different?
 
mr_mister

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While I don't want to get involved in this and know absolutely nothing about the Cummins situation, I just want to say that hypocrisy is the grossest trait in humans to me.

Either embrace being a **** and don't judge others

Or if you do preach/judge, be consistent and live by those values

Actions speak a lot louder than words
 
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Line and Length said:
I called Cummins an entitled hypocrite because he adopts a 'green' stance, objecting to cricket's sponsorship source from an energy company, yet he quite happily drives a V8 petrol guzzling SUV and flies first class.
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Do yo0u want him to sail in a tea clipper to the next Ashes series? Fmd.

Maybe he buys carbon offsets for his seat on the flight, which have been available for about a decade or more.
 
Line and Length

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Burgey said:
L&L is unhappy because Pat Cummins has said he won't appear in ads for the fossil fuel company which is sponsoring the test side, but has the temerity - the absolute gall - to drive a petrol fueled car.

Or something.

I'm sure if he refused to wear a pride cap, L&L would rate him a freedom fighter.
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I'm not unhappy. I'm just speaking my mind.
 
Spark

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mr_mister said:
While I don't want to get involved in this and know absolutely nothing about the Cummins situation, I just want to say that hypocrisy is the grossest trait in humans to me.

Either embrace being a **** and don't judge others

Or if you do preach/judge, be consistent and live by those values

Actions speak a lot louder than words
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This answer to failing to live up to standards isn't to have literally no standards at all.
 
Spark

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Like in general I think any moral philosophy that ends up in the world "embrace being a ****" is probably a bad philosophy, on the grounds that people shouldn't embrace being *****.
 
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Burgey said:
Do yo0u want him to sail in a tea clipper to the next Ashes series? Fmd.

Maybe he buys carbon offsets for his seat on the flight, which have been available for about a decade or more.
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I just expect better of someone in a position of responsibility. If he wants to adopt a pseudo green stance, so be it ... but don't endanger valuable sponsorship.
 
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Spark said:
Like in general I think any moral philosophy that ends up in the world "embrace being a ****" is probably a bad philosophy, on the grounds that people shouldn't embrace being ****s.
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This is libertarianism. And you're right, no one should ever embrace it.
 
Coronis

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mr_mister said:
While I don't want to get involved in this and know absolutely nothing about the Cummins situation, I just want to say that hypocrisy is the grossest trait in humans to me.

Either embrace being a **** and don't judge others

Or if you do preach/judge, be consistent and live by those values

Actions speak a lot louder than words
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Idk anything about the Cummins thing either but literally 99% of humans are hypocrites. I’m sure Bumrah is a massive one too.
 
mr_mister

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Spark said:
Like in general I think any moral philosophy that ends up in the world "embrace being a ****" is probably a bad philosophy, on the grounds that people shouldn't embrace being ****s.
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Well, I guess by embrace being a **** I more meant have self awareness and acknowledge your own faults once in a while, I dunno. I'm not advocating for anyone being a ****

I just can't stand overly judgemental people I guess. But that's more based on horrible interactions in my personal life with them
 
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