Cricket's most over rated players

[Days of Grace]

Ntini bombs out when he plays overseas. At home he's the bomb.

 

[NZTailender]

I like to discuss a player, yes, even 2 or 3, but threads like this always seem to me to end-up with 50 different people trying to be debated as to who's more minutely overrated than the other.

Recurring topics such as this, Warne-vs-Murali, Lara-vs-Tendulkar, etc. are just, well, something long-term members like myself see and almost instinctively think "uh... this AGAIN".

For more medium-term (and obviously short-term) members such as yourself it's obviously a slightly different story

Agreed, got over these thread after one year of seeing them every month. Worst threads ever, so boring.

Then let the newer members or anyone who does want to discuss such matters discuss it. Just because you don't want to go over these subjects again doesn't mean the rest of the forum will not want to talk about it.


Simply, don't read the bloody thread if you're tired of the subject matter.

 

[nightprowler10]

Then let the newer members or anyone who does want to discuss such matters discuss it. Just because you don't want to go over these subjects again doesn't mean the rest of the forum will not want to talk about it.


Simply, don't read the bloody thread if you're tired of the subject matter.

Agreed. Although I prefer if people dig up older threads instead of creating new ones.

 

[Perm]

Agreed. Although I prefer if people dig up older threads instead of creating new ones.

I'd like to see that more often as well, but generally newer members just decide to post a new one.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Shane Watson
Cameron White
Allan Border
Shayne O'Connor
Mike Atherton
Dave Richardson
Shane Watson
Richie Richardson
(not Mark Richardson as well, surely?)
Ashwell Prince EWS
Kyle Mills
Anyone with the surname 'Marshall' other than Malcolm
Mark Nicholas
David 'Syd' Lawrence
Shane Watson
Jeff Crowe
Ian Bishop

 

[Salamuddin]

Shane Watson
Cameron White
Allan Border
Shayne O'Connor
Mike Atherton
Dave Richardson
Shane Watson
Richie Richardson
(not Mark Richardson as well, surely?)
Ashwell Prince EWS
Kyle Mills
Anyone with the surname 'Marshall' other than Malcolm
Mark Nicholas
David 'Syd' Lawrence
Shane Watson
Jeff Crowe
Ian Bishop

Richie Richardson ....no way in hell was he overrated.
Apart from the fact that he was the coolest cat ever to grace a cricketing field, the man was an awesome batsman....loved smashing the Aussie bowlers to kingdom come.

Neither was Ian Bishop - dreadfully unlucky with injuries but as frightening as Waqar at his best.

 

[Perm]

Ntini bombs out when he plays overseas. At home he's the bomb.

At the moment that's true, but the same could be said for any number of players, maybe not quite to the same extent as Ntini though. He has been an absolute star for South Africa over the last three years and I expect him to continue that sort of form, especially as he is coming into the prime of his bowling.

 

[Perm]

Allan Border
Mike Atherton
Richie Richardson
Ian Bishop

Atherton is the best opener England had since Boycott, I don't think I'm missing anybody. To suggest Border and Richardson are overrated is pretty laughable, they were fantastic cricketers. Bishop was unlucky with injuries, he could've been great. More an instance of people rating his talent.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Atherton is the best opener England had since Boycott, I don't think I'm missing anybody.

Absolute rubbish. Atherton's career can nicely be split in two - pre-injury and post-injury. His career pre-injury you'd be (arguably) correct, but after he was injured (I think it was a back injury) he was MASSIVELY over rated. You obviously didn't watch any of the test matches where the commentators would peddle the line "Ah, Atherton's the man that the opposition want to get out" only to be squared up on the crease and edge to slip 2nd or 3rd ball. Also, he had this miraculous ability to edge balls down the leg side to the keeper. He hung on for far too long and despite his technical failings he was still lauded as a great player. He was NOT. What was his average? 37?

As for better openers, Gooch would be the obvious; especially in the period 1988-1993.

 

[adharcric]

Agreed. Although I prefer if people dig up older threads instead of creating new ones.

If you were a new member, would you go back and search for a thread to dig up or just make a new one?

 

[chaminda_00]

Then let the newer members or anyone who does want to discuss such matters discuss it. Just because you don't want to go over these subjects again doesn't mean the rest of the forum will not want to talk about it.


Simply, don't read the bloody thread if you're tired of the subject matter.

The point is one of main reason why long term member never post (or hardly post) in CC, is that you get the same old topics coming up, over and over. I have no problem with newer member want to discussion a pointless topic, they can do for their life. But the trend for long term member to not post in CC will continue, if pointless threads keep coming.

Just readin through this thread, all you get is one guys everything else thinks his awsome. Or everyone expects too much, his underrated now. Same old, same old.

This is what makes CC so boring for most long term members.

 

[Perm]

Absolute rubbish. Atherton's career can nicely be split in two - pre-injury and post-injury. His career pre-injury you'd be (arguably) correct, but after he was injured (I think it was a back injury) he was MASSIVELY over rated. You obviously didn't watch any of the test matches where the commentators would peddle the line "Ah, Atherton's the man that the opposition want to get out" only to be squared up on the crease and edge to slip 2nd or 3rd ball. Also, he had this miraculous ability to edge balls down the leg side to the keeper. He hung on for far too long and despite his technical failings he was still lauded as a great player. He was NOT. What was his average? 37?

As for better openers, Gooch would be the obvious; especially in the period 1988-1993.

Damnit, Gooch, I had a bad feeling I'd missed somebody.

Atherton's average opening the batting wass 39, healthy, but by no means spectacular. When exactly did Atherton's bad back start to affect him as a player and reduce him from a very good player to the over rated one? He was a total bunny against Glenn McGrath but did pretty damn well to average over 40 against Pakistan and South Africa who had some very good ppening bowlers at the time.

 

[Perm]

The point is one of main reason why long term member never post (or hardly post) in CC, is that you get the same old topics coming up, over and over. I have no problem with newer member want to discussion a pointless topic, they can do for their life. But the trend for long term member to not post in CC will continue, if pointless threads keep coming.

Just readin through this thread, all you get is one guys everything else thinks his awsome. Or everyone expects too much, his underrated now. Same old, same old.

This is what makes CC so boring for most long term members.

It's a cricket forum, it's inevitable that we're going to end up going over the same stuff.

 

[chaminda_00]

It's a cricket forum, it's inevitable that we're going to end up going over the same stuff.

Its the frequency thats the issue not the fact it happens.

 

[nightprowler10]

If you were a new member, would you go back and search for a thread to dig up or just make a new one?

If I was a brand new member, no. But the creator of this thread has been around since October and has a couple of hundred posts under his belt, so yeah I kind of do expect him to do that.

 

[Perm]

Its the frequency thats the issue not the fact it happens.

Like Thomas said, if you don't like it then don't post in the thread. There are plenty of good discussions going on at the moment.

 

[Fiery]

Absolute rubbish. Atherton's career can nicely be split in two - pre-injury and post-injury. His career pre-injury you'd be (arguably) correct, but after he was injured (I think it was a back injury) he was MASSIVELY over rated. You obviously didn't watch any of the test matches where the commentators would peddle the line "Ah, Atherton's the man that the opposition want to get out" only to be squared up on the crease and edge to slip 2nd or 3rd ball. Also, he had this miraculous ability to edge balls down the leg side to the keeper. He hung on for far too long and despite his technical failings he was still lauded as a great player. He was NOT. What was his average? 37?

As for better openers, Gooch would be the obvious; especially in the period 1988-1993.

If I had the choice between watching Mike Atherton bat and removing my fingernails with pliers I would chose the latter

 

[Perm]

If I had the choice between watching Mike Atherton bat and removing my fingernails with pliers I would chose the latter

Entertainment wasn't a specialty of his, that's pretty irrelevant to the overrated point that HDS was trying to make though.

 

[Fiery]

Entertainment wasn't a specialty of his, that's pretty irrelevant to the overrated point that HDS was trying to make though.

I know

 

[Pup Clarke]

Fiery, who's that in your avatar.