Cricket: Art or Science?

[Swervy]

Why is not the issue - the fact that Australia have not lost nearly as many matches as everyone else has due to dropping lots of catches is.
Australia's catching for the last couple of years has been very poor - though most supposedly knowledgable English commentators seem not to have noticed.

I dont agree with what you say..but I will just leave it at that without going any further..coz I just cannot be bothered

 

[Son Of Coco]

Why is not the issue - the fact that Australia have not lost nearly as many matches as everyone else has due to dropping lots of catches is.
Australia's catching for the last couple of years has been very poor - though most supposedly knowledgable English commentators seem not to have noticed.

ah Richard, you continue to amaze and astonish..........

 

[FRAZ]

Named after the great Sri Lankan exponent of 'random bowling' - Chukkitan Chansit.

LOL Thanx for explaining

 

[luckyeddie]

ah Richard, you continue to amaze and astonish..........

The word you are looking for is 'baffle'

 

[Swervy]

ah Richard, you continue to amaze and astonish..........

I just think that Richard feels that a given chance is a random event and that the dice has rolled in Australias favour all these years...nothing to do with the fact that the Australian bowlers have been considtantly putting the ball in the right spot to create the chances...its what the game is about..creating chances in order to take wickets..Australia do it well..its not luck

 

[Son Of Coco]

I just think that Richard feels that a given chance is a random event and that the dice has rolled in Australias favour all these years...nothing to do with the fact that the Australian bowlers have been considtantly putting the ball in the right spot to create the chances...its what the game is about..creating chances in order to take wickets..Australia do it well..its not luck

Yeah, also completely disregarding the fact that the Australian team is consistently the last team still in the nets long after the others have packed it up for the day.

 

[sledger]

batting is an art

bowling is a science

(although we will exclude certain spinners from the "science" such as shane warne and murali)

 

[Swervy]

batting is an art

bowling is a science

(although we will exclude certain spinners from the "science" such as shane warne and murali)

and yet watching bowlers like Holding, Lillee,hadlee made you feel like you were watching genuine artists

 

[sledger]

i disagree

they were all very fantastic scientists of the sports variety.

 

[Swervy]

i disagree

they were all very fantastic scientists of the sports variety.

oh yeah I know what you are saying..but when you see the action of Holding or Lillee, or the control of Hadlee with his flowing action,science for me goes out the window..thats art!!!

 

[Richard]

Flatter pitches, the whole idea of the pinch-hitter...

Yet again, you are the only person claiming there hasn't been changes.

Yes, flatter pitches - which do not change "accurate" into "inaccurate".
Pinch-hitters, if anything, improve bowlers figures because sending a tail-ender in at the top of the order is simply an invitation to get a nice early wicket under your belt, and turn what would have been 10 for 2 into 10 for 3.

 

[Richard]

I dont agree with what you say..but I will just leave it at that without going any further..coz I just cannot be bothered

ah Richard, you continue to amaze and astonish..........

So you guys claim that Australia's fielding has not been generally poor over the last 2 years?

 

[Richard]

I just think that Richard feels that a given chance is a random event and that the dice has rolled in Australias favour all these years...nothing to do with the fact that the Australian bowlers have been considtantly putting the ball in the right spot to create the chances...its what the game is about..creating chances in order to take wickets..Australia do it well..its not luck

In some cases it's been good, bordering on brilliant, bowling that has taken the wickets.
In others, it has been poor batting.

 

[sledger]

no it is about control

you fail to see te point young man

 

[Swervy]

So you guys claim that Australia's fielding has not been generally poor over the last 2 years?

as I say..cant be bothered.

Read what I have said and draw your own conclusions on what I think about you saying that about Australias opposition giving more chances than Australia actually do....To put it down to luck is just one of the most absurd things I have ever heard...basically discrediting one of the greatest teams ever to play (certainly with regards to winning percentage the best ever) by saying they are lucky is astonishing.

You are just trying to provoke reaction from people now...and I think that is a bit crap to be honest

 

[Swervy]

no it is about control

you fail to see te point young man

maybe I do miss the point Grandad

 

[Richard]

as I say..cant be bothered.

Read what I have said and draw your own conclusions on what I think about you saying that about Australias opposition giving more chances than Australia actually do....To put it down to luck is just one of the most absurd things I have ever heard...basically discrediting one of the greatest teams ever to play (certainly with regards to winning percentage the best ever) by saying they are lucky is astonishing.

I'm not actually talking at all about the more chances in this post, simply asking whether it's really up for debate that Australia's fielding has been very poor since Mark Waugh started dropping all those catches in that Pakistan Test.

 

[Richard]

no it is about control

you fail to see te point young man

Landing the ball consistently on the spot doesn't take you wickets.
Bad strokes, whether or not they are caused by that, do.

 

[Swervy]

I'm not actually talking at all about the more chances in this post, simply asking whether it's really up for debate that Australia's fielding has been very poor since Mark Waugh started dropping all those catches in that Pakistan Test.

well catches are dropped...and catches are caught..Australia are still a stunning fielding team...I dont think I have really noticed a huge jump in dropped catches, certainly no more than any other team.

Its not really that big a deal to me to be honest..I am more 'bothered' about the other thing you said,which is a joke

 

[Swervy]

Landing the ball consistently on the spot doesn't take you wickets.
Bad strokes, whether or not they are caused by that, do.

lets not drag that into this thread