Classifying the all-rounders

[tony p]

Balanced All-rounder, Eddie Barlow
Batting All-rounder, Garry Sobers
Bowling All-rounder, Richard Hadlee.

Had Mike Procter played enough Test Cricket, he would have got Barlow's spot.

 

[ankitj]

Why not Botham for balanced all rounder?

 

[Fuller Pilch]

For 3-4 years Vettori was NZ's best batsman and best bowler when Bond was injured.

 

[trundler]

For 3-4 years Vettori was NZ's best batsman and best bowler when Bond was injured.

No wonder NZers cling on to Bond's potential so hard.

 

[Fuller Pilch]

Balanced All-rounder, Eddie Barlow
Batting All-rounder, Garry Sobers
Bowling All-rounder, Richard Hadlee.

Had Mike Procter played enough Test Cricket, he would have got Barlow's spot.

Barlow only took 40 wickets in 30 tests (although took lots of wickets for a World XI vs England), so I'd call him a batting allrounder.

 

[Line and Length]

As many CW discussions on individual cricketers often takes, for obvious reasons, Bradman as THE greatest, I am gong to look beyond THE greatest all rounder when nominating the following.

Balanced All-Rounder - Miller
Batting All-Rounder - Hammond
Bowling All-Rounder - Hadlee

 

[mr_mister]

Goddard has a way better bowling average than batting average yet was an opening batsman and someone I imagine had more security in the team through his batting. Interesting case IMO

 

[subshakerz]

Why not Botham for balanced all rounder?

Miller is better.

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Balanced All rounder - Miller
Batting All rounder - W.G
Bowling All rounder - Imran

 

[ankitj]

Miller is better.

All round things only Botham has done:

1. Scored 10+ hundreds and took 10+ fivers
2. Scored a hundred and took a fiver in same game five times; no one else has done it more than thrice
3. Achieved 800+ ICC rating points as both batsman and bowler

It's not Miller, it's Botham.

 

[mr_mister]

Botham is a good case for stats not being synonymous with averages, which is in somebody's signature here but I forgot who

 

[ataraxia]

Botham is a good case for stats not being synonymous with averages, which is in somebody's signature here but I forgot who

PEWS'

 

[subshakerz]

All round things only Botham has done:

1. Scored 10+ hundreds and took 10+ fivers
2. Scored a hundred and took a fiver in same game five times; no one else has done it more than thrice
3. Achieved 800+ ICC rating points as both batsman and bowler

It's not Miller, it's Botham.

Too bad we can't crop the second half of Botham's career out.

 

[ankitj]

Aubrey Faulkner is another interesting one. He is the only cricketer afaik who achieved #1 batting, bowling and all rounder ranking at some point in his career. Obviously he had fewer players to compete with. His peak ratings in both disciplines was in 600s, well behind Botham's.

 

[mr_mister]

Interesting he ever rose above Hobbs and Barnes considering their insane averages during that time

His bowling average for example is solid for today's standards but quite high for the golden age

 

[Patience and Accuracy+Gut]

Aubrey Faulkner is another interesting one. He is the only cricketer afaik who achieved #1 batting, bowling and all rounder ranking at some point in his career. Obviously he had fewer players to compete with. His peak ratings in both disciplines was in 600s, well behind Botham's.

Faulkner’s peak rating in batting is 877.
Really lucky to have no.1 bowling rankings.After Barnes decided not to play 5th test,1914 and retired from internationals.
Well deserved ranking in batting.

 

[Coronis]

Too bad we can't crop the second half of Botham's career out.

Huh, why not? I see it every day on here with other players.