Chris Cairns vs Tony Greig

[subshakerz]

Who is the better test cricketer?

 

[PlayerComparisons]

Cairns

 

[Johan]

Greig, won lots of games, and that's all that matters in Cricket at the end of the day.

 

[subshakerz]

Greig, won lots of games, and that's all that matters in Cricket at the end of the day.

I think against Aus in the real fire he did well.

 

[Migara]

Greg.

Ideally should have been five great ARs, with Tony being the fifth.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Greig, won lots of games, and that's all that matters in Cricket at the end of the day.

Way too concentrated international career and really subpar FC record (batting)

 

[Johan]

Way too concentrated international career and really subpar FC record (batting)

Ok

 

[capt_Luffy]

Ok

Comeon now!!!

 

[Johan]

Comeon now!!!

what?

 

[capt_Luffy]

what?

What's your problem man!!? What was with the "Okay"??

 

[Johan]

What's your problem man!!? What was with the "Okay"??

bro what do you want me to say

 

[subshakerz]

What's your problem man!!? What was with the "Okay"??

It means he gets it but it ain't that strong an argument

 

[capt_Luffy]

bro what do you want me to say

Debate me.

 

[Johan]

Debate me.

haven't we talked about this before? I cut him longevity points but Cairns was injured half the year so he doesn't get much longevity points either

 

[vidiq]

Tony greig is the best commentator.

 

[capt_Luffy]

haven't we talked about this before? I cut him longevity points but Cairns was injured half the year so he doesn't get much longevity points either

Yeah, but Greig played for only 5 years and he averaged 28 with the bat in non Test FC matches.....

 

[Johan]

Yeah, but Greig played for only 5 years and he averaged 28 with the bat in non Test FC matches.....

Yeah but there have been people who grossly overachieved in Test class IE Ken Barrington for one, I don't know how the rest of his career would've turned out, what little he had, he won multiple games in India and West Indies, and was a driving force behind many Ashes wins, a lot of people would kill for a career like that

 

[Migara]

Yeah but there have been people who grossly overachieved in Test class IE Ken Barrington for one, I don't know how the rest of his career would've turned out, what little he had, he won multiple games in India and West Indies, and was a driving force behind many Ashes wins, a lot of people would kill for a career like that

Certain kumar Sangakkara too. Averaged 44 in FC excluding tests, 57 in tests.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Yeah but there have been people who grossly overachieved in Test class IE Ken Barrington for one, I don't know how the rest of his career would've turned out, what little he had, he won multiple games in India and West Indies, and was a driving force behind many Ashes wins, a lot of people would kill for a career like that

Barrington played Tests for over a decade. Greig did pretty good in the Tests he played in, but they were in an extremely short window at his peak. In situations like this I look for the FC numbers, and a 1.5x jump in career batting average from FC to Test over a complete career..... I ain't betting on that.

 

[capt_Luffy]

Certain kumar Sangakkara too. Averaged 44 in FC excluding tests, 57 in tests.

Kinda breaks given nowadays players no longer focuses on FC once they become Test regulars, unlike back then