Chappell fingering fans

[Maison]

Bad times? They had just thrashed Sri Lanka a couple of weeks back... South Africa are a good team.

oh nah, the love in the team was so high about 1 month ago....

 

[honestbharani]

CC, did u actually see the footage?

 

[greg]

CC, did u actually see the footage?

And how long have you lived in Canada?

 

[C_C]

And how long have you lived in Canada?

6+ years.

 

[C_C]

CC, did u actually see the footage?

No, which is why i am not commenting about Chappell- i am not stating whether it was malicious/accidental/fingest just stuck outside the window/whatever from Chappell.

I am commenting on the notion that Chappell need not respect Indian cultural sensibilities because he is Aussie- that is the height of arrogance and ignorance as far as i am concerned.

 

[honestbharani]

yeah, but he is saying that he was only attending to an injured finger inside the bus and that the cameras had caught what was a private thing inside the bus.

 

[C_C]

yeah, but he is saying that he was only attending to an injured finger inside the bus and that the cameras had caught what was a private thing inside the bus.

Well if that is true,then this is a non-incident. Like i said, i was addressing the notion that flipping the bird in a foreign culture is okay simply because 'out here its no biggie'....which is rather ignorant and insensetive to various cultures.

 

[parttimer]

If John Buchanon gave a bunch of Aussie fans the bird, no doubt there would be a massive stink..

 

[marc71178]

Oh, you English are precious.

I keep forgetting your team is a shining light in a dark era of bad behaviour...sainthood must be just around the corner.

Still hurting from the Ashes then...

 

[vic_orthdox]

Seems as though they just want to find things to hound Chappell with ATM. Shouldn't have done it, but the witch hunt will be vicious.

 

[adharcric]

chappell should be more responsible because of the importance and sensitivity related with his job in india.

but honestly, the disgraceful fans in kolkata who jeered their own team deserve more than just chappell's finger ... i'll show them the finger right now too, with no remorse

 

[pug]

I think the middle finger gesture is so meaningless now, that no one in Australia even does it anymore.

From my last two years in Singapore, I would say Australia isn't the only place.

 

[pug]

Its a fact that Indian fans are very extreme in their reactions. Past experiences of the fans does show you have to be very professional (as you said) in reacting to crowds, media.

Which is why something done in private where noone ought to have been able to see it, and hence hurt by it (had the media not been so omnipresent), should not be thrown out of proportion.

What bothers me about the whole issue is not Chapels' so called lack of sensitivity or professionalism (which is an issue, of course), but the fact that politics in Indian cricket can manipulate minor events to such an extent that the team's welfare is put at risk. Would you agree that much of the chapel bashing is being done by ganguly supporters?

 

[Smudge]

I still giggle every time I see this thread title on the Cricket Chat page...

 

[pug]

But saying that the crowd behaviour excuses his act is not right - The crowd doesnt get paid by the BCCI and is free to act as poorly as it wants. But Chappell is and hence should behave in a professional manner as required by the post he's occupying and shouldn't go down to the levels of the crowd.

First of all, I agree Chapel didn't behave professionally, and I don't think he should have done it. But he did it for a reason that is quite understandable, and acceptable in my opinion, even though not entirely desirable. There's a difference in being justifiable and being acceptable. The crowd provocation was uncalled for and no matter how poorly they can act and be forgiven for it, they must not forget that they are Indians and not simply bengalis. The exclusion of Ganguly has shown that regional sentiments still override national interests, at least to an extent.

 

[Pratters]

I would put it like this - it was a wrong thing to do if it was done (Chappell has denied it).

But it gives the Ganguly supporters-no-matter among fans and in the media some thing to use against Chappell in as strong a voice as they can manage.

Also an opportunity for flame searching media for some thing to write about.

Did Chappell have to attend to his finger by sticking it out of the team bus soon after boarding it? Or is it an excuse. I dont know as I was not on that team bus. But it was unprofessional of Chappell if he did show his finger - what appears - from a general perspective and showed lack of common sense if he did it from the perspectives I mentioned above.

 

[pug]

Did Chappell have to attend to his finger by sticking it out of the team bus soon after boarding it?

If that's why he did it, then I don't see why not. If your finger hurts, you look at it, and don't stop to think whether the act might appear obscene to someone outside the bus who shouldn't be able to see it clearly.

But if that's not the reason, then the reasons used by the Ganguly-supporters to lash out against Chapel has nothing to do with his ability to produce a match winning side, which is what irritates me.

But lets not go too far now. I would like to see what happens now, whether the board just lets it go with a mild warning or so (which would be wise considering the reaction of the fans is punishment enough) or they do something more drastic. The way I see it, there is much greater chance now of Ganguly being included in the test team, and its not just because of the way he bats (or bowls).

 

[shankar]

First of all, I agree Chapel didn't behave professionally, and I don't think he should have done it. But he did it for a reason that is quite understandable, and acceptable in my opinion, even though not entirely desirable. There's a difference in being justifiable and being acceptable. The crowd provocation was uncalled for and no matter how poorly they can act and be forgiven for it, they must not forget that they are Indians and not simply bengalis. The exclusion of Ganguly has shown that regional sentiments still override national interests, at least to an extent.

If you're talking about acceptability, then yes there was nothing very serious or unacceptable about it. It just paints him in a very unfavourable light and shows him out to be hot-headed and immature, that's all.

 

[pug]

If you're talking about acceptability, then yes there was nothing very serious or unacceptable about it. It just paints him in a very unfavourable light and shows him out to be hot-headed and immature, that's all.

And so a level headed and mature way to react to a not-so-serious and perfectly acceptable incident is by making it hit media headlines and blow it into unnaturally huge proportions and let it affect your team composition? (ok, maybe for the last one I''m going a bit overboard since it hasn't by itself done anything yet, but it has all the potential)

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[shankar]

And so a level headed and mature way to react to a not-so-serious and perfectly acceptable incident is by making it hit media headlines and blow it into unnaturally huge proportions and let it affect your team composition? (ok, maybe for the last one I''m going a bit overboard since it hasn't by itself done anything yet, but it has all the potential)

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Why do you keep repeating this tit-for-tat philosophy? Just because somebody else acted foolishly doesn't make Chappell's actions any less foolish.

And in India, with the level of interest in the sport, every newspaper and TV channel is going to want to cash in on any little piece of cricket controversy they get and make it out to be a big thing. You just have to adjust and deal with it.

P.S: Congrats on the 100 posts