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Chappell fingering fans
- Thread starter Pratters
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Dasa
International Vice-Captain
Well then surely you would then know that such things are frowned upon in Indian culture moreso than Australian culture? Just imagine the reaction if you were to give the finger to someone at an Indian functon as opposed to one with majority Australians...the Australians might offer a mild rebuke whereas you and I both know that the Indians would be up in arms about it. It's a matter of the difference in how respect is shown in these cultures...and Chappell certainly crossed the line with his actions.shounak said:
I remember Damien Martyn giving the finger to a journalist which was captured on camera..the reaction, although disapproving, was mild and it was forgotten about pretty quickly. Now look at the Indian reaction. Surely the fact that it has gotten so much attention and is so widely reported shows that many more people have been offended by Chappell's indiscretion, which reflects on the culture.
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Shounak
Banned
Well that would depend on the individual..It also depends on the type of Indians you're dealing with. But as a crowd, or a collective group. Would the people in the crowd take more offence to getting the finger in either country?
I think both countries audiences would see it as a lack of control and upbringing on GC's part, rather then be offended or take it as a blow to their culture..
I think the whole cultural thing is irrelevant when discussing GC's actions..
I think both countries audiences would see it as a lack of control and upbringing on GC's part, rather then be offended or take it as a blow to their culture..
I think the whole cultural thing is irrelevant when discussing GC's actions..
Perhaps my awareness of Indian culture is not as acute as yours... or perhaps this "culture" is really a myth because there is no one, single culture that defines this nation as a whole. Then again, as I said, maybe I'm just ignorant. The public reaction to this diabolical act will make it pretty clear what our culture really is, as far as such matters are concerned...C_C said:
Shounak
Banned
Marto's reaction was to the media and it was done in a joking, almost approval seeking manner. There was no malice there. He had a smile on his face whilst doing it.. But anyway, a coach and a non-senior (ie not captain or vice) players standard of behaviour are completely different..Dasa said:
If Ganguly or John Buchanan gave an Australian crowd the finger, I'm sure everyone would be up in arms.. More so then if Marto did (to the media.. edit)..
But people aren't offended by this, they simply find the action highly inappropriate for someone in GC's position.
Who was personally or culturally offended by them?
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Pratters
Cricket, Lovely Cricket
From cricinfo
Greg Chappell, India's coach, has "vehemently denied" making any obscene gestures at the crowd, as has been suggested in media reports. A clip has been aired on several television channels showing a hand with the middle finger upright and all other fingers folded. This incident took place before India's one-dayer against South Africa at Kolkata.
"I vehemently deny making any gesture towards anybody. I did not gesture either towards the media or to the public" Chappell told Cricinfo after the team reached Mumbai. "I have not seen the pictures clearly, but from what I have seen an image has been captured through a window. I don't keep track of every movement of mine, but I certainly know I did not make any angry gestures towards the public," he said.
However, Chappell did not go so far to suggest the hand was someone else's and not his. "I'm not saying that the hand that was shown was not mine," said Chappell. "But even if it was, what is being shown is a mischievous and malicious interpretation of what happened."
This comes in the wake of the Indian team being treated to boos and jeers as they slid to a 10-wicket defeat. Through the course of the match, and especially in the second innings when an Indian defeat looked imminent, the restive crowd turned on the home team, cheering with great gusto every time a boundary was hit by South Africa. Even when the post-match ceremony was on the crowds booed Rahul Dravid, Chappell and some sections even went after Sachin Tendulkar, who registered a low score in the match.
Yesterday, when confronted by the media in Kolkata, M Baladitya, the media manager, put a different spin on the whole issue. "I have spoken to Chappell. He told me that while giving fielding practice to the players, he injured a finger. He was only attending to the finger in the team bus," Baladitya told the media.
Greg Chappell, India's coach, has "vehemently denied" making any obscene gestures at the crowd, as has been suggested in media reports. A clip has been aired on several television channels showing a hand with the middle finger upright and all other fingers folded. This incident took place before India's one-dayer against South Africa at Kolkata.
"I vehemently deny making any gesture towards anybody. I did not gesture either towards the media or to the public" Chappell told Cricinfo after the team reached Mumbai. "I have not seen the pictures clearly, but from what I have seen an image has been captured through a window. I don't keep track of every movement of mine, but I certainly know I did not make any angry gestures towards the public," he said.
However, Chappell did not go so far to suggest the hand was someone else's and not his. "I'm not saying that the hand that was shown was not mine," said Chappell. "But even if it was, what is being shown is a mischievous and malicious interpretation of what happened."
This comes in the wake of the Indian team being treated to boos and jeers as they slid to a 10-wicket defeat. Through the course of the match, and especially in the second innings when an Indian defeat looked imminent, the restive crowd turned on the home team, cheering with great gusto every time a boundary was hit by South Africa. Even when the post-match ceremony was on the crowds booed Rahul Dravid, Chappell and some sections even went after Sachin Tendulkar, who registered a low score in the match.
Yesterday, when confronted by the media in Kolkata, M Baladitya, the media manager, put a different spin on the whole issue. "I have spoken to Chappell. He told me that while giving fielding practice to the players, he injured a finger. He was only attending to the finger in the team bus," Baladitya told the media.
I am certain if Chappell continues on his winning ways with the Indian Team, this will all be forgotten soon.
But if India were to fail to win the series , this might come to haunt him again.
Indian Cricket is on its best footing at the moment with Chappell / Dravid combo at the top.
Only Calcutta (Am I correct in saying -the largest state in India ) seems unhappy with this state of affairs !! Possibly because of their local hero being cast aside .
But if India were to fail to win the series , this might come to haunt him again.
Indian Cricket is on its best footing at the moment with Chappell / Dravid combo at the top.
Only Calcutta (Am I correct in saying -the largest state in India ) seems unhappy with this state of affairs !! Possibly because of their local hero being cast aside .
Make that one more person. Gosh, what I've seen in delhi schools is that little kids not even in class 6th (about 11 yrs) pop up their middle fingers when irritated at someone. With wrestling and all, middle finger has inculcated itself into the neo indian culture, at least in the metros.Dasa said:
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I would say his tiff with ganguly is the main reason why he will get into unneccessary controversies. He's got some powerful and influential people against him and all they are looking for s a reason to shoot him. Saying which, someone should have told him that, which I presume they did, and for him to show his middle finger like that could only mean a) that he was super ****ed and couldn't control it, b) he thought it wouldn't be visible and so only a personal way off letting off steam without hurting anyone or c) he didn't care.Pratyush said: