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got a link this time: http://edition.cnn.com/2006/SPORT/12/29/cricket.australia.reut/
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Buchanan: "KP not a team player"
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FaaipDeOiad
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What's with the article? It says that Pietersen "asked" to be moved up to 4 because he was sick of batting with tailenders, and then mentions that Fletcher said he hadn't wanted to bat there. I've not seen the first claim anywhere else, and it seems to contradict the second.
GIMH
Norwood's on Fire
Whether he's a "team player" or not, he's done more for the team than any other in this series, so who cares?
And it would have been better, for the team, if KP had not been stuck with the tail at Perth, and hence made bigger scores than he did. Same goes for Lord's last year.
And it would have been better, for the team, if KP had not been stuck with the tail at Perth, and hence made bigger scores than he did. Same goes for Lord's last year.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
Couldn't give a **** what Buchanan thinks, and why should anyone. If it wasn't for KP we would have been thrashed a hell of a lot more than we just did.
sideshowtim
Banned
Hard to be down by more than 4-0 with 4 matches played so far mate. That's a thrashing if ever I've seen one.PhoenixFire said:
The point is that KP, even though Dunc and the rest of the team wanted him to bat 4 for the whole series, refused and said he felt more comfortable at 5. Since when the hell does he make those decisions? Fred should tell him "You bat 4 or you're out of the team". They wanted their best player at 4 and KP had a whinge and refused. So he finally bats 4, 8 innings too late. He put his own wants over the wants of the team.
That my friends, is not a team player.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
How the hell do you know what went on?
sideshowtim
Banned
I read the article. Dunc said that they all wanted him at 4 since the start of the series however he declined and said he felt better at 5.
""We've been trying to get him to four but he just feels very, very comfortable at five," Fletcher said"
The captain and coach wanted him at 4. KP is not in a position of authority. He should move wherever the hell the captain and coach want him to.
""We've been trying to get him to four but he just feels very, very comfortable at five," Fletcher said"
The captain and coach wanted him at 4. KP is not in a position of authority. He should move wherever the hell the captain and coach want him to.
sideshowtim
Banned
And then the reason he eventually DID move to 4, was not because of what the team wanted, it was rather because he didn't want to bat with the currently very poor English tail! What a joke!
"Then Kevin discussed with us that he was batting with the tail a lot and he wanted to bat four. We said 'Are you sure you want to? He said he'd rather do that than be caught with the tail that we've got at the moment."
"Then Kevin discussed with us that he was batting with the tail a lot and he wanted to bat four. We said 'Are you sure you want to? He said he'd rather do that than be caught with the tail that we've got at the moment."
PhoenixFire
International Coach
They should build the team around him, he is the best batter. It sounds soft, but if you get him happy, and let him go where he wants, then the chances are he'll bat better, and better for the team.
sideshowtim
Banned
Thats ridiculous! Give him the captaincy if you want to do that. We're not going to let Hussey do whatever he feels like just because he's our star batsman at the moment. Pietersen is not in a position to make these major decisions. The Captain and Coach decide what is best for the team, not a virtual rookie.PhoenixFire said:
I think England are just worried they'll upset him and he'll bugger off back to South Africa or something.
PhoenixFire
International Coach
That's never going to happen, I'm not worrying about that.
To compare Australia to England is ridiculous. Of all the English batsmen, I'd say that only Pietersen at the moment has a realistic chance of getting into the Australian line up, to put in other words, your top order will score runs pretty much every match, wherever people bat.
It is different with us, because of the unreliablity of the top order. So, we have to utilise what small amount of real and developed talent we have, we should do this by putting Pietersen, our best player, where he feels he can play best for himself and the team, since he knows his own game better than anyone, like Fletcher and Flintoff.
To compare Australia to England is ridiculous. Of all the English batsmen, I'd say that only Pietersen at the moment has a realistic chance of getting into the Australian line up, to put in other words, your top order will score runs pretty much every match, wherever people bat.
It is different with us, because of the unreliablity of the top order. So, we have to utilise what small amount of real and developed talent we have, we should do this by putting Pietersen, our best player, where he feels he can play best for himself and the team, since he knows his own game better than anyone, like Fletcher and Flintoff.
