kyear2
International Coach
How many other openers averaged over 50 post war?
Far less a leg spinning one who may very well have been the greatest slip ever?
Being such unique one of one player alone gets you bonus points.
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Brian Statham vs Bob Simpson
- Thread starter sayon basak
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Far less a leg spinning one who may very well have been the greatest slip ever?
Being such unique one of one player alone gets you bonus points.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
He averaged 46. Among openers post WWII, I will keep Gavaskar, Boycott and Greenidge much ahead; and all of G Smith, Hayden, Sehwag, Lawry, Cook, Gooch and Morris on around equal footing to Simpson. His legbreaks were great and him being an ATG in the cordon as well is a big boost. That's why I am very much on line about this one. Will probably go with Simpson today, may switch to Statham tomorrow. But on the primary, Statham is ahead for me. He ranks higher among my bowler's list (38) than Simpson does for batting (56).
sayon basak
International Debutant
If I may ask, where does Gooch rank in that list?
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
65.If I may ask, where does Gooch rank in that list?
Cowdrey, the comparison you posted, does 63.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Looks like you aren't happy @sayon basak ?
sayon basak
International Debutant
I actually rate gooch in my top 50, or even 45 maybe.
(Because of his late peak which I rate very highly and obviously, his mustache)
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
He was not that great for most of his career and for all his bravados against pace, really struggled in Australia.
Mustache is a fair point in his favour.
sayon basak
International Debutant
Gooch averaged 50 for ten years straight. If Greenidge can be rated highly because of averaging 51 for 11 years, even after having a Greenidgesque downfall later, then why not Gooch? Greenidge also averages 30.96 against AUS. Also having less not out's also harms his average, otherwise has a pretty good RPM (75.42)
(Guess away record also has a role)
Strongest point actually.
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Gooch averages 42 overall instead of Greenidge's 45; presenting a much worse period of run before those 10 years.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Didn’t Gooch miss like 3 of those years? Not quite the same as actually playing for 10 years.
sayon basak
International Debutant
Yeah. But Greenidge has 19 not out's, where Gooch has only 6. Greenidge has RPI of 40.85, where Gooch has a RPI of 41.4. Pretty even imo. (I don't rate Greenidge below Gooch, but you get my point)
BazBall21
International Captain
Did well in his only tour of Australia in his prime. He was washed by the last one.
Coronis
International Coach
Fifty six? Fifty six?! Oh man now that’s all I can think about. I’m gonna kill you, you no good fifty sixing…
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Well I have the likes of Shrewsbury ahead; don't think most do. Remove all of Grace, Ranji, Barry, etc. making it Test only; and I think Simpson cuts top 50.
Coronis
International Coach
Oh sad days. References lost
sayon basak
International Debutant
Simpson averages 55.52 as an opener, in 70 innings. Don't think many would be able to do that in any era of test cricket.
Also scored 3 double centuries as an opener, which has a 311 at Old Trafford.
Also scored 3 double centuries as an opener, which has a 311 at Old Trafford.
PlayerComparisons
International Vice-Captain
Maybe Simpsons games as opener coincided with his peak? Like Sanga when he wasn’t keeping
capt_Luffy
Cricketer Of The Year
Never watched Futurama sadly.
sayon basak
International Debutant
If I may ask (2), where does @Fuller Pilch rank in that list?
And are you done with your top 50 BD pacers list?
Coronis
International Coach
You’re missing out mate.