Brian lara vs steve smith

[subshakerz]

at the time? not at all

What was the mean rate generally of most bats then?

 

[subshakerz]

Hammond>Viv is also less of me of upping Hammond and more of me giving the middle finger to Viv and the other guy

Doesn't sound like a detached stance

 

[Johan]

What was the mean rate generally of most bats then?

Compton was middleorder and considered a dasher/striker and he was like 40 SR, Hammond was considered unreasonably dominant MO and was in 40s too

 

[subshakerz]

Compton was middleorder and considered a dasher/striker and he was like 40 SR, Hammond was considered unreasonably dominant MO and was in 40s too

So Hutton was a regular dour bat then.

 

[Johan]

So Hutton was a regular dour bat then.

I won't say he was considered any more dour at the time than Smith can be considered today minus the opener tax

 

[Johan]

Doesn't sound like a detached stance

more of me just revising my stances on a couple BAB candidates.

 

[subshakerz]

I won't say he was considered any more dour at the time than Smith can be considered today minus the opener tax

I thought Hutton had a SR in the 30s. Someone posted.

 

[subshakerz]

more of me just revising my stances on a couple BAB candidates.

Ok bro

 

[Johan]

I thought Hutton had a SR in the 30s. Someone posted.

about 40 I think, would've taken a hit from the 1955 Ashes where he was finished and playing as a captain, most bats at the time played at that rate and Hutton's SR wasn't considered a problem in his playing days anyway.

 

[Johan]

Ok bro

 

[subshakerz]

about 40 I think, would've taken a hit from the 1955 Ashes where he was finished and playing as a captain, most bats at the time played at that rate and Hutton's SR wasn't considered a problem in his playing days anyway.

In the 30s from what I read. But I also read accounts from that time that described him as a conservative bat.

 

[Johan]

In the 30s from what I read. But I also read accounts from that time that described him as a conservative bat.

That was just Compton's confusion on why he didn't attack as often as Compton knew he could as he had seen him do it many times, he chopped it up to them being fundamentally different people and fundamentally different Batsmen, other than that there was nothing.

don't think we're gonna agree on this, I'll just wait for smith's avg to fall a couple points more and come back to this.

 

[Johan]

Gavaskar (I go back and forth on him)

who are you contemplating btw?

 

[subshakerz]

That was just Compton's confusion on why he didn't attack as often as Compton knew he could as he had seen him do it many times, he chopped it up to them being fundamentally different people and fundamentally different Batsmen, other than that there was nothing.

don't think we're gonna agree on this, I'll just wait for smith's avg to fall a couple points more and come back to this.

All good then. To each their own.

 

[subshakerz]

who are you contemplating btw?

Headley.

 

[Johan]

Headley.

Definitely possible.

 

[Coronis]

I thought Hutton had a SR in the 30s. Someone posted.

Top 21 bats as voted by CW in 2022 and 2024 in order of their SR’s (historical numbers come from Charles Davis, modern ones from cricinfo)

Richards 68.8
Bradman 61.0
Lara 60.51
Ponting 58.72
Pollock 55.8
Sangakkara 54.19
Tendulkar 54.04
Smith 53.56
Sobers 52.4
Hobbs 51
Chappell 51
Waugh 48.64
Kallis 45.97
Hammond 45.2
Gavaskar 45
Headley 44.0
Dravid 42.51
Barrington 41.1
Border 41.0
Hutton 38.3
Sutcliffe 37.3

All come from the main fastest scoring page except Hobbs, Gavaskar and Chappell.

In the test match database, Richards is listed as 69, Bradman as 61 and Sobers as 52, hinting they are perhaps closer to that particular number.

The Hot 50: The Fastest-scoring Batsmen of All Time

http://www.sportstats.com.au/zArchive/contents.pdf

edit; upon further reading of the main page I’ve adjusted Bradman, Sobers, Richards and Pollock accordingly.

 

[Johan]

So basically Lara plus Sachin

That's Sobers, ridiculously consistent + ATG serieses/knocks + 20 year longevity. a Bonafide top three candidate.

 

[subshakerz]

Top 21 bats as voted by CW in 2022 and 2024 in order of their SR’s (historical numbers come from Charles Davis, modern ones from cricinfo)

Richards 68.8
Bradman 61.0
Lara 60.51
Ponting 58.72
Pollock 55.8
Sangakkara 54.19
Tendulkar 54.04
Smith 53.56
Sobers 52.4
Hobbs 51
Chappell 51
Waugh 48.64
Kallis 45.97
Hammond 45.2
Gavaskar 45
Headley 44.0
Dravid 42.51
Barrington 41.1
Border 41.0
Hutton 38.3
Sutcliffe 37.3

All come from the main fastest scoring page except Hobbs, Gavaskar and Chappell.

In the test match database, Richards is listed as 69, Bradman as 61 and Sobers as 52, hinting they are perhaps closer to that particular number.

The Hot 50: The Fastest-scoring Batsmen of All Time

http://www.sportstats.com.au/zArchive/contents.pdf

edit; upon further reading of the main page I’ve adjusted Bradman, Sobers, Richards and Pollock accordingly.

Our guys, always with the numbers...

 

[subshakerz]

That's Sobers, ridiculously consistent + ATG serieses/knocks + 20 year longevity. a Bonafide top three candidate.

Hmm you used to critique him for having a soft record and rated Hutton ahead of him.