Brendon McCullum

[deeps]

Mccullum is a crap keeper! A fairly good batsman,with plenty of talent...But i'm not convinced that he can become a Very good keeper!

And Chris Nevin is a useless batsman!(just thought i'd add that)

 

[Tim]

Sorry Neil, I obviously regard 'tosser' as a slightly less harsh a word.

McCullum isn't a crap keeper, he just has a few technical issues. But I agree that Nevin is crap.

 

[Richard]

If he's good enough to score those runs and his domestic average is bad then that means that he's not good enough to score those runs? Perfect sense as usual. :rolleyes:

No, I never said he "wasn't good enough to score those runs", because I am behind the times and haven't read any match-reports yet.
However, does a poor domestic one-day average not mean anything? Accompanied by a hitherto even worse ODI one?

 

[Richard]

i spose my standards are supposedly too low..:rolleyes:

You're by no means the only one.

 

[Richard]

How do you rate your own current keeper Richard, Chris Read who averages 27 after 117 FC county matches.

McCullum averages 28 after 17 FC matches & is starting to get better. How you can even rate a player after so few matches is interesting.

I don't want to start comparing averages to every player but I think you need to worry about the ability of your own players.

OK, a few points:
1, I never mentioned FC-cricket. McCullum's FC-average is OK (nothing special, but respectable enough for a wicketkeeper). I mentioned his List-A average. No, you cannot rate a player with any absolute certainty after just a few matches (I'm not entirely certain how many List-A matches McCullum has played), but you can say "he has done poorly, so why keep selecting him?"
2, I worry about English players no more or less than those from anywhere else. I am a cricket fan before I am a fan of any team.
3, incidentally, regarding Read: I rate him higher than I did after 2001, but his last season was disappointing given the start and his 2002. I still think he might make a decent Test player, but Geirant Jones would probably make an even better one. He's only played one season and you can't judge anyone with certainty on one season but his was, for two thirds, an exceptional season. I hope he carries on the form of the first two thirds in 2003 (if he doesn't play this winter) next season and gets selected. Put it this way: Read could be good, Jones could be very good.

 

[anzac]

McCullum needs to consistantly score at better than his average to be anything other than ' a good prospect'. He then needs to start converting some of those scores into a dominant / influential innings.

He has a big reputation as an explosive 'hitter', and was IMO 'sacrificed' by the selectors as opener on his debut in the VB series in OZ. However apart from the one knock v OZ he has still yet to show if he is a batsman of a smash & grab merchant following his brain explosion today.

 

[Craig]

Ok Richard, who should 'keep for NZ in ODIs.

 

[Neil Pickup]

He's said Robbie Hart somewhere in another thread.

 

[Andre]

Ok, can we keep this topic to McCullum rather than a Richards vs the rest topic?

Cheers everyone.

My 2 cents - McCullum is improving, but he always makes atleast one real clanger each match.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Robbie Hart is a very good 'keeper and should definitely play the Tests, but you need a 'keeper who can bat well and preferably quickly in ODI's.

 

[Mister Wright]

Robbie Hart dropped some dead set sitters in the 2nd test against India.

 

[Richard]

Yes, but Nevin drops sitters almost every game.

 

[Neil Pickup]

Yes, but Nevin drops sitters almost every game.

Nevin doesn't keep any longer.

 

[Mr Mxyzptlk]

Robbie Hart dropped some dead set sitters in the 2nd test against India.

'Some' meaning 3+?

 

[Richard]

Nevin doesn't keep any longer.

At all? Or just because they keep insisting on picking McCullum and McCullum's slightly better?

 

[Neil Pickup]

At all? Or just because they keep insisting on picking McCullum and McCullum's slightly better?

The latter for certain. Ask a kiwi about the former.

 

[Richard]

The latter for certain. Ask a kiwi about the former.

For all the Kiwis on here: does Chris Nevin still keep wicket for Canterbury or whoever he plays for?

 

[Tim]

Well it won't matter anyway because Nevin won't play another ODI once NZ return home.

His keeping is crap & his batting is just as worse.