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BREAKING NEWS:::: SHOIAB and ASIF ban Lifted!!!!!!

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
gunner said:
well this should prove they only took it once

the quantities foend in their bodies was only around 10mg

while the athletes always being found in the usa have over 200mg of nandro in their body and WADA lets them off

double standards i say
Are these sports in the US signed up to the WADA treaty (or whatever its called) then?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Saurav Ganguly said:
It was in a Pakistani urdu newspaper 2 or three days ago.
Funny how this has only come out now and not when the test was taken, or when the appeal was held?
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
Saurav Ganguly said:
Yes,I don't understand these people r so biased against Pakistan,whether these poor guys committ a crime or not,they r taken to be criminals without any evidence.I trust PCB & the tribunals appointed by them because whenever it was necessary,they banned the culprits.The best example of that is the former Pakistan captain Saleem Malik.
Is this the same with all Pakistanis? Why do do many of you feel that everyone hates you and wishes that you didn't play Test Cricket?
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
PhoenixFire said:
Is this the same with all Pakistanis? Why do do many of you feel that everyone hates you and wishes that you didn't play Test Cricket?

First off, I could be wrong, but his user name indicates he's not Pakistani. Second, even if he is, you will always have some outlandish members on any forum. They will make preposterous statements of bias and conspiracies at the drop of the hat. However, they would not be the majority. The regular Pakistani posters here that I know off (Beleg, Xuhaib, NP, shortpitch etc) have all come out against the ban reversal and do not throw out "bias" or "racist" allegations. I would suggest you stop taking the troll bait and keep a sense of perspective. Sorry if I sound harsh, but it does get frustrating to be portrayed negatively due to a few bad apples.
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
Fusion said:
First off, I could be wrong, but his user name indicates he's not Pakistani. Second, even if he is, you will always have some outlandish members on any forum. They will make preposterous statements of bias and conspiracies at the drop of the hat. However, they would not be the majority. The regular Pakistani posters here that I know off (Beleg, Xuhaib, NP, shortpitch etc) have all come out against the ban reversal and do not throw out "bias" or "racist" allegations. I would suggest you stop taking the troll bait and keep a sense of perspective. Sorry if I sound harsh, but it does get frustrating to be portrayed negatively due to a few bad apples.

Bravo Fusion Sahib....well said.
 

PhoenixFire

International Coach
I'm not saying that all Pakistani fans are like that, but it just gets rather frustrating when a certain minority of them play the bias and hate card everytime somebody either beats them in an argument or they have nothing to say.
 

Fusion

Global Moderator
PhoenixFire said:
I'm not saying that all Pakistani fans are like that, but it just gets rather frustrating when a certain minority of them play the bias and hate card everytime somebody either beats them in an argument or they have nothing to say.
Totally agree with you. I cringe each time I see posts like that. But it's also equally frustrating to be generalized because of that minority. Lately, I've probably been a bit over-sensitive about that happening. I'm a proud and passionate supporter of Pakistan cricket and the last several months have been very trying. Hence, my guard is usually up these days.
 

Salamuddin

International Debutant
archie mac said:
PAKISTAN CRICKET

When it comes to match fixing= soft

When it comes to player dissent=soft

When it comes to drug cheats=soft
That's pretty rich coming from an Aussie.......you guys gave Warne and M Waugh a mere slap on the wrists for associating with a book maker .....personally, I never believed their **** and bull story about pitch and weather information but the Aussie Cricket board tried to cover the whole thing up rather come out openly it with it.......


Warne was also treated lightly after taking the diuretic....as the WADA chairman said at the time, he should have got 2 years not just one....

SO please spare us the moral high ground rubbish of we do things differently down under.....
 

archie mac

International Coach
Salamuddin said:
That's pretty rich coming from an Aussie.......you guys gave Warne and M Waugh a mere slap on the wrists for associating with a book maker .....personally, I never believed their **** and bull story about pitch and weather information but the Aussie Cricket board tried to cover the whole thing up rather come out openly it with it.......


Warne was also treated lightly after taking the diuretic....as the WADA chairman said at the time, he should have got 2 years not just one....

SO please spare us the moral high ground rubbish of we do things differently down under.....
Well I like to think one is much better then 08-)

Might surprise you but I thought the fine fair for MEW and Warne, at least they found no evidence of them selling a match

If they ever do find evidence of an Australian throwing a Test I hope they give him life

If they ever do find evidence of an Australian leaving the field and forfeiting a Test I hope they ban him for two years

And if they ever catch an Aussie for taking steroids (not a diet pill) then I hope they give him two years
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
archie mac said:
Well I like to think one is much better then 08-)

Might surprise you but I thought the fine fair for MEW and Warne, at least they found no evidence of them selling a match

If they ever do find evidence of an Australian throwing a Test I hope they give him life

If they ever do find evidence of an Australian leaving the field and forfeiting a Test I hope they ban him for two years

And if they ever catch an Aussie for taking steroids (not a diet pill) then I hope they give him two years
Not sure how yet, but I'm pretty sure that was a racist comment :)
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
And if they ever catch an Aussie for taking steroids (not a diet pill) then I hope they give him two years
It was a masking agent. And people forget he was injured at the time..an injury which healed suspiciously fast.
 

nightprowler10

Global Moderator
BoyBrumby said:
I'm almost certain it wasn't, even if I disagree with arch on a couple of points. :huh:
Allow me to rephrase that...

"Not sure how yet, but I'm pretty sure that was a racist comment [/sarcasm pointed at some of the others posting in this thread]"

:)
 

BoyBrumby

Englishman
nightprowler10 said:
Allow me to rephrase that...

"Not sure how yet, but I'm pretty sure that was a racist comment [/sarcasm pointed at some of the others posting in this thread]"

:)
Ah. Missed that. Apologies.

Carry on. :)
 

archie mac

International Coach
silentstriker said:
It was a masking agent. And people forget he was injured at the time..an injury which healed suspiciously fast.

I must admit I thought him innocent at the time but after reading the bio by Paul Barry I thought him very lucky, but still he copped one year and these two are off scott free, still think it very soft
 

archie mac

International Coach
nightprowler10 said:
Not sure how yet, but I'm pretty sure that was a racist comment :)
The odds are stacked against me as I am:

White
Christian
Male
First language English
Sixth generation Aussie
Hetrosexual

But I am left handed so in a minority group
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
archie mac said:
The odds are stacked against me as I am:

White
Christian
Male
First language English
Sixth generation Aussie
Hetrosexual

But I am left handed so in a minority group
Nothing positive is going to come out of this discussion. No point in discussing it until some new facts are presented.
 

archie mac

International Coach
silentstriker said:
Nothing positive is going to come out of this discussion. No point in discussing it until some new facts are presented.
Agreed, was not happy with an earlier post suggesting that my opinion was based simply on where I was raised and which team I follow

Will post no more in here (until new evidence)
 

silentstriker

The Wheel is Forever
archie mac said:
Agreed, was not happy with an earlier post suggesting that my opinion was based simply on where I was raised and which team I follow

Will post no more in here (until new evidence)
Not implying anything against you in particular, but on most issues, CW (and the cricket world) does tend to fall around Asia v Rest of World. Look at Hairgate, WC voting, Murali issue, etc. Its almost always decided by where you were raised and which team you follow.

Unfortunate, but them's the facts.
 

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