BREAKING NEWS: Hair removed from the Elite Panel

[silentstriker]

Although Smith comes close, nobody has been as thoroughly dislikable as Arjuna Ranatunga yet

I dont know, Cronje/Azhar easily outpace Ranatunga.

 

[PhoenixFire]

It's a really sad situation that we've found ourselves in. In my opinion, Hair is not a racist. Had the exact same thing happened , but the other way round (an asian umpire accusing England, Aus or SA of ball tampering or other things), then I doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid, but as it happens they have.

 

[silentstriker]

It's a really sad situation that we've found ourselves in. In my opinion, Hair is not a racist. Had the exact same thing happened , but the other way round (an asian umpire accusing England, Aus or SA of ball tampering or other things), then I doubt anyone would have batted an eyelid, but as it happens they have.

You mean accused a bowler of chucking even though it was decided by all the umpires, including themselves, that any chucking will be referred to the third umpire? And then belligerent acts toward certain teams, and then accusing someone of ball tampering without any evidence?

He would have been gone 10 years ago, spare me.

 

[FRAZ]

You mean accused a bowler of chucking even though it was decided by all the umpires, including themselves, that any chucking will be referred to the third umpire? And then belligerent acts toward certain teams, and then accusing someone of ball tampering without any evidence?

He would have been gone 10 years ago, spare me.

The simpelest answer and repeated like 50 million times and the answers to this arguments are usualy given by the repeat "post molestation offenders" or the people who "just want to be different" !
ICC decided and it was very late but it's alright in the end . That was the basic point that "Hair had a problem and was a problem" ..

 

[PhoenixFire]

And then accusing someone of ball tampering without any evidence?

Right this makes me really angry, how do you know that he didn't have any evidence?

 

[BhupinderSingh]

Right this makes me really angry, how do you know that he didn't have any evidence?

If he has any evidence,ask him to hand it over to some journalists so that who world me see it via electronic & print media.If he does this,I promise that me & many protest against his sacking.

 

[silentstriker]

Right this makes me really angry, how do you know that he didn't have any evidence?

Yup, show me the evidence. I will publically support Hair.

If he had any evidence, Pakistan wouldn't have been cleared of ball tampering.

 

[Sanz]

Suspension for what? Hair hasn't been sacked because of this one issue of the ball-tampering - rather, it's been a series of issues that he's had with several teams. They've all added up to this decision which is sensible IMO.

Why dont you come with those series of issues ?

Hair has been banned because of Asian bloc ganging up against him and not because of anything else. No one has a right to take somebody's job just because the other guy seems to have an ego. He deserved a punishment but a BAN, he did not.

By doing this a bad precedent has been set, and it is not good for the game in the long run.

 

[Sanz]

Yup, show me the evidence. I will publically support Hair.

If he had any evidence, Pakistan wouldn't have been cleared of ball tampering.

What is the ban if someone is caught ball tampring ? One game max ? How come the accusation gets you a life ban ? So if a guy is caught tampering with the ball, he is suspended fir one game, but if the other guy accuses someone of ball tampering gets a life ban.

It's like if you murder someone you will spend one day in Jail, but if you accuse someone of murder, you will serve lifetime.

And please dont tell me that you will support Hair, Fact is you wont. How many Indians supported Dennes when he punished Tendulkar or Lloyd when he fined Dravid for ball tampering ? All we did was find excuses.

 

[silentstriker]

And please dont tell me that you will support Hair, Fact is you wont.

Thanks for telling me what I will or will not do. Fact is I publically said Pakistan should not have left and I would have supported Inzy receiving a much longer ban (i.e one year from all cricket).

 

[Anil]

I dont know, Cronje/Azhar easily outpace Ranatunga.

exactly...some folks hate ranatunga, but there are quite a few who really like/admire him as well, but azhar/cronje are almost universally hated...

 

[Anil]

*Ding* Sorry that was the bias bell going off on it's own.

now folks, when you don't have anything meaningful to say but you need to give the impression of a smart reply, the above is an example of something you can come up with...

 

[marc71178]

If he has any evidence,ask him to hand it over to some journalists so that who world me see it via electronic & print media.If he does this,I promise that me & many protest against his sacking.

The problem is that the only valid evidence is automatically not available.

The condition of the ball at the previous check, 5 overs or so prior to the change is only known by 2 men.

 

[Sanz]

Thanks for telling me what I will or will not do. Fact is I publically said Pakistan should not have left and I would have supported Inzy receiving a much longer ban (i.e one year from all cricket).

So did you support Dennes when he had evidence against Tendulkar tampering with the ball ? Did you support Clive Lloyd when he fined Dravid for tampering with the ball ?

The fact is when confronted with the evidence against Tendulkar, Indian fans(which probably included me) refused to accept it and accused Mike Dennes of Racism. Since Lloyd and Bucknor were not Whites, which basically means we couldn't accuse them of racism, we repeatedly accuse them of Bias against India.

Common, we have got to accept it, If we get couple of poor decisions from one individual, accusations of bias/racism start flying.

 

[silentstriker]

So did you support Dennes when he had evidence against Tendulkar tampering with the ball ? Did you support Clive Lloyd when he fined Dravid for tampering with the ball ?

Actually, I would support an umpire anytime there is evidence. I don't have a problem with an umpire doing his job.

Hair was/is a special case - he has a long and varied history of these types of things.

 

[Sanz]

Actually, I would support an umpire anytime there is evidence. I don't have a problem with an umpire doing his job.

I think you ducked the question. Are you saying that you accept that Tendulkar and Dravid tampered with the ball and that Dennes/Lloyd were not being biased/racist when they handed out punishments ?

Hair was/is a special case - he has a long and varied history of these types of things.

Long history as in ?

 

[silentstriker]

I think you ducked the question. Are you saying that you accept that Tendulkar and Dravid tampered with the ball and that Dennes/Lloyd were not being biased/racist when they handed out punishments ?

Yes, I accept it.

Long history as in ?

The chucking incident for one.

 

[social]

Actually, I would support an umpire anytime there is evidence. I don't have a problem with an umpire doing his job.

Hair was/is a special case - he has a long and varied history of these types of things.

And a long history in getting it right

 

[Sanz]

Yes, I accept it.

Cool then. My apologies for making an assumption.

The chucking incident for one.

That was what 12 years ago ? And in any case what did you expect from him, to not call Murali for an action that looked suspect ?

 

[nightprowler10]

And a long history in getting it right

He used to be good umpire, but he's been pretty bad for a while now IMO.