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Bowling Orders

Coach_Pearson

Coach_Pearson

First Class Debutant
Blewy said:
I've also tweaked Surrey and Victoria's bowling orders in an attempt to find their problem but so far no luck...

More soon...
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Thanks for all this work Blewy.

I too have had a bit of a play with vc4, and it looks as if the number of overs per game, definately plays a big part. If i increase Webster's over by about 1000, he bowls his full 10, and if I decrease Moon's overs, by around 500, then he does not bowl at all.

I would have to say bowling position is taken into account secondly by vc4. Meaning that it picks the bowlers, based on over per game, and if it needs to choose, then bowling position comes into play.
 
Blewy

Blewy

Cricketer Of The Year
Yeah after looking a bit further it definatley looks as though it has something to do with the amount of overs each player has per game...

SOOOO...

The only option i can think of here is...

If you have a player who you do NOT want to bowl... we may be able to delete his bowling stats for you... Giving them 0's all the way through their bowling...

I will keep a backup data file for each team so that if by chance you get a couple of injuries and are short on bowlers then i can recall theeir bowling stats for you.. Also i will have the backup stats for the end of season and transfer time...

This is the only option i can think of.. Argonaut has offered to be official stats keeper so if he definatley takes it on this allows me to fiddle around with the database each week and make changes to bowling orders etc if need be......

What do u guys think of this???
 
G

Graham

3rd Umpire
This is what I was trying to warn everybody about BEFORE trading and the draft started. Some of us based our trading and draft picks on this, so we would now be disadvantaged by such a change as that which you're proposing. I'd therefore object strongly to such a change.
 
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The Argonaut

State Vice-Captain
The only thing that should be allowed to change in the vc4 file is the bowling order. The number of overs should not be changed. What if someone wants that guy to bowl in future seasons. If you don't want them to bowl they should be put at 8,9 or 10 end of story. For the fellow who has E Moon listed at 3 and didn't want him to bowl he deserves all he gets. He should have been bumped lower down the order.
 
Coach_Pearson

Coach_Pearson

First Class Debutant
The Argonaut said:
The only thing that should be allowed to change in the vc4 file is the bowling order. The number of overs should not be changed. What if someone wants that guy to bowl in future seasons. If you don't want them to bowl they should be put at 8,9 or 10 end of story. For the fellow who has E Moon listed at 3 and didn't want him to bowl he deserves all he gets. He should have been bumped lower down the order.
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Yeah I guess that's fair, and yeah i wouldn't mind him bowling, but after the guys that I have listed at 2. My bowling order is:

1. I Harvey, S Harwood, J Moss
2. T Welsford, G Dros, R Webster
3. E Moon, K Upashantha
4. B Hodge, F Yapp, L Yapp, G Rummans

VC4 version of this is:

I Harvey
J Moss
S Harwood
T Welsford
E Moon
K Upashantha
F Yapp
G Dros
R Webster
others....
 
Blewy

Blewy

Cricketer Of The Year
Ok to clear this up...

Basically the way i have suggested would be exactly the same as bowling orders except their would be NO way of it stuffing up...

What would happen is i would keep 2 files per team... 1 which has every players stats the other which has bowlers who aren't wanted to bowl edited out.... Come end of the season all ORIGINAL player stats will be used so the next person to get a player doesn't miss out on a players bowling ability...

In effect it all works the same as bowling orders but will ENSURE players who are not wanted to bowl WONT bowl...
 
G

Graham

3rd Umpire
So my trade of Z.Birch and Z.Court for M.Hayden and A.Anderton was a complete waste of time and weakens my batting for no good reason under this new scenario.
Makes the whole trading process and draft selection a bit of a waste as some of us took the fact that some top batsmen also bowl, bowl quite a few overs and bowl badly into account.
 
Cloete

Cloete

International Captain
Okay thanks blewy... I still think it's strange how K Powar who bowls 4 overs per match bowls ahead of K Weekes who bowls 6 or 7!!
 
M

Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
I agree with Graham on this account. It just isn't fair for those who were safe and sacrificed better players...but im not exactly sure...
 
Coach_Pearson

Coach_Pearson

First Class Debutant
Just so it is clear Blewy, I don't need you to change anything for my Victorian side, as it is my mistake, and I just have to live with it.

But I would like to see you modify te clubs that have bowlers (and I mean frount line bowlers) who are not bowling. Like I saw one other Div 1 game where Paul Adams did not bowl, and i think this is just wrong.
 
Cloete

Cloete

International Captain
Coach_Pearson said:
Just so it is clear Blewy, I don't need you to change anything for my Victorian side, as it is my mistake, and I just have to live with it.

But I would like to see you modify te clubs that have bowlers (and I mean frount line bowlers) who are not bowling. Like I saw one other Div 1 game where Paul Adams did not bowl, and i think this is just wrong.
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That's my problem.... K weekes bowls more overs than sharkey and powar but he didn't bowl at all!!
 
NikhilN

NikhilN

International Regular
Just noticed...why in the world was A swinburn(spinner) bowling 2nd in my last match against auckland!?
 
Slats4ever

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
cos he was angry and threatened to kill the captain if he didn't get a bowl. what else was the skipper spose to do...

blewy's doing his best to fix this guys.. just have patience and have fun in the process
 
G

Graham

3rd Umpire
I don't think there's going to be a fix possible. In Lancashire's last game A.Anderton bowled even though he has NO bowling stats and is listed as an 11 in my bowling order.
 
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