Better combo round II. Sobers & Marshall vs Sachin and Imran

[OverratedSanity]

Imran still had a RPI of 30 which to me is quite par for a lower order bat of the 80s.

Yes, I'd say Imran was about as good a batsman as a mid to high 30s average specialist batsman at the time. Which is excellent for a second skill.

Sobers being almost as good as Jon Snow/Peter Pollock in his peak and being the 7th highest wicket taker of all time when he retired is more incredible though. The production is just on a different level.

 

[subshakerz]

Yes, I'd say Imran was about as good a batsman as a mid to high 30s average specialist batsman at the time. Which is excellent for a second skill.

Sobers being almost as good as Jon Snow/Peter Pollock in his peak and being the 7th highest wicket taker of all time when he retired is more incredible though. The production is just on a different level.

Sobers peak was a bit too short though. But I give him the edge for his overall bowling load.

 

[subshakerz]

This is exactly why I think Sobers shits all over Kallis as an all rounder too, by the way. Kallis was always the support act, Sobers had to do the heavy lifting as WI's primary wicket taker for a while.

Yeah it's the true dividend line and often gets overlooked in Sobers and Kallis comparisons.

 

[Coronis]

I don’t think even the most ardent Kallis fan on here (idek who that is tbh) would suggest he was better than Sobers.

I do feel he is underrated at times but obviously Sobers was a better bat and far more integral part of his bowling unit despite similar averages.

 

[subshakerz]

I don’t think even the most ardent Kallis fan on here (idek who that is tbh) would suggest he was better than Sobers.

I do feel he is underrated at times but obviously Sobers was a better bat and far more integral part of his bowling unit despite similar averages.

Kallis fans often do rate his bowling better than Sobers.

 

[ankitj]

Yes, I'd say Imran was about as good a batsman as a mid to high 30s average specialist batsman at the time.

So at his peak he was about the same as his career average? I think this is just cognitive dissonance trying to work out how do we rate such astonishing batting numbers from someone is mainly a bowler, one of the greatest at that.

 

[subshakerz]

So at his peak he was about the same as his career average? I think this is just cognitive dissonance trying to work out how do we rate such astonishing batting numbers from someone is mainly a bowler, one of the greatest at that.

There is a definite reluctance to give full credit to Imrans batting in the 80s onwards. Yet he doesn't have the same output as a top order bat but it is still darn impressive.

 

[ankitj]

Yeah but that stretch of average in particular is extremely inflated.

Is it inflated? He has a healthy average against most teams, only slightly soft against WI but then that's the greatest bowling attack ever assembled.