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because the finger does not catch the cricket-ball.

?????????

So if catches arent taken by fingers, what are they taken by?

 

[sledger]

i think richard is saying that you need to use most of the entire of your hand to catch a ball, i mean have you ever seen a catch taken with one or two fingers alone ?

 

[marc71178]

Yes, you've provided answers. If I ask someone what the moon's made of and they say "Cheese!", that's an answer too.

Geez T_C, there's more holes in that then the first chance average (assuming you mean its Emmental?)

 

[Top_Cat]

Geez T_C, there's more holes in that then the first chance average (assuming you mean its Emmental?)

Nothing has more holes than first-chances; not even a Swiss-cheese moon. In fact, there's so many holes, they somehow defy the laws of physics by joining the holes to form one big hole. That's right - a big ball of solid nothing. Which about encapsulates the evidence for first-chances I've ever read.

 

[Tomm NCCC]

Suprised Akmal isnt on that list, so much potential...

 

[marc71178]

Nothing has more holes than first-chances; not even a Swiss-cheese moon. In fact, there's so many holes, they somehow defy the laws of physics by joining the holes to form one big hole. That's right - a big ball of solid nothing. Which about encapsulates the evidence for first-chances I've ever read.

Your knowledge of Swiss Cheese and holes clearly surpasses mine.

 

[Richard]

quality spin or quality pace? He has already proven himself against India, which has the best spin attack in the world, IMHO.

India's spin-attack is better than Sri Lanka's?
Especially in ODIs, I'd say no. India's ODI spin-attack (indeed, attack as a whole, really) consists of Harbhajan (how many times has he faced Harbhajan anyway...?), and Sri Lanka's consists of Murali and often other decent bowlers.

 

[Richard]

Yes, you've provided answers. If I ask someone what the moon's made of and they say "Cheese!", that's an answer too.

In my estimation they are satisfactory answers.
If in someone's estimation they are not you'd think people'd say so... but usually it gets to a place where there's no response.

 

[Richard]

?????????

So if catches arent taken by fingers, what are they taken by?

Err... the whole hand?
No catch can be taken without the use of palms and fingers together.

 

[marc71178]

In my estimation they are satisfactory answers.
If in someone's estimation they are not you'd think people'd say so... but usually it gets to a place where there's no response.

It's called the brick wall effect.

No matter how many people find the same holes adn say so, you refuse to accept it.

Therefore people shut up because it's become clear you're so blinkered that you can't accept any criticism of the theory.

 

[Richard]

No, I simply get to a point where I've filled in every hole people try to bore.

 

[Swervy]

people come...people go..people come back, the seasons go by with frightening speed, but the one constant in this ever changing world is Richard still defending the first chance average thing....it quite simply cheers me up

 

[Richard]

Delighted to hear it and all, but there are other things it does too.

 

[marc71178]

people come...people go..people come back, the seasons go by with frightening speed, but the one constant in this ever changing world is Richard still defending the first chance average thing....it quite simply cheers me up

I think T_C's cheese analogy was the best put down of it yet though.

 

[honestbharani]

India's spin-attack is better than Sri Lanka's?
Especially in ODIs, I'd say no. India's ODI spin-attack (indeed, attack as a whole, really) consists of Harbhajan (how many times has he faced Harbhajan anyway...?), and Sri Lanka's consists of Murali and often other decent bowlers.

He wrote that Akmal is yet to prove himself against quality spin. I think he has through his TEST knocks against India....

 

[open365]

Ok,as a relatively new user to the forums,this first chance average is new to me.

What are the problems with it?

And,how has Richard not explained them?

 

[marc71178]

Ok,as a relatively new user to the forums,this first chance average is new to me.

What are the problems with it?

And,how has Richard not explained them?

It's safer you don't ask!

 

[Langeveldt]

Basically the batsmans average is calculated, not from when he is dismissed, but when he offers his "first chance".. Usually in the form of a missed/dropped catch..

What this neglects, is that there is a huge grey area about what a "chance" is, and the fact that every batsman in history has the same chance of being dropped as the next man, so theres no point in worrying about the comparison..

It goes to say that Lara's 400 should never have happened because he was dropped on 83 or whatever it was.. This of course is as ludicrous as saying Gilchrist would have scored 495 had he not been given a shocking LBW decision when on 60, and so on.. It can work both ways in its silliness

Less than 1,000 words!

 

[Swervy]

Basically the batsmans average is calculated, not from when he is dismissed, but when he offers his "first chance".. Usually in the form of a missed/dropped catch..

What this neglects, is that there is a huge grey area about what a "chance" is, and the fact that every batsman in history has the same chance of being dropped as the next man, so theres no point in worrying about the comparison..

It goes to say that Lara's 400 should never have happened because he was dropped on 83 or whatever it was.. This of course is as ludicrous as saying Gilchrist would have scored 495 had he not been given a shocking LBW decision when on 60, and so on.. It can work both ways in its silliness

Less than 1,000 words!

nice summary...i guess the most annoying aspect of it is that Richard refuses to see that there is a 'huge grey area'...a huge grey area that pretty much everyone else can see like a great big cataract slap bang in the middle of your eyeball

 

[open365]

Ok,the first massive grey area is that of what is considered a chance,

Richard,what is considered/not considered a chance?