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Best Sportsman in the world?

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
I think this thread is related to current time and I don't know how anyone can overlook Roger Federer.

The relative ease in which he despatches the worlds number 2-5 players is just amazing. Tiger Woods is a shade of the golfer he used to be. Has definately lost his invincibility, Schumacher has to be questioned after this seasons performance. so much in car racing rests in the engine. Rossi I know too little about.
 

C_C

International Captain
Anil said:
The Russian gymnastics queen who holds the record for most medals in olympics.

Actually, technically speaking, the supreme athlete, if looked at physical attributes only, are gymnasts....they combine power, speed,dextirity and flexibility better than any other sports practitioners.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Federer at the top for mine than

Rossi
Schumacher
Armstrong
Thorpe (Ian that is)
Hackett
Phelps
Warne
McGrath
probably a couple of occer players up there too
Tiger
Savage
Bryant
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
my problem is with Lance Armstrong compared to Federer is that cycling is a far different sport to tennis. There are so many different disciplines in cycling... Sprinting, Track, Tours. I don't really know much about it but the amount of champions that cycling spits out compared to tennis is unbelievable. In my opinion there are just as many if not more serious tennis players in the world as their are cyclists. However tennis players only have one arena of competition, whilst cyclists have many. Sure Lance Armstrong is great.

But Federer is on another level.
 

Blaze

Banned
Langeveldt said:
Lance Armstrong
Don Bradman

MASSIVE GAP

Muhammed Ali
Malcolm Marshall
Shane Warne
Michael Schumacher
Jona Lomu
Michael Jordan
Pele
Allan Donald
Hank Aaron
Babe Ruth
Tiger Woods

Jonah Lomu would struggle to make an all time all blacks side.
 

Blaze

Banned
I would say if we are talking current time then Andrew Johns would have to be up there. He is a freak.
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
C_C said:
I would say overall, the best sportsman ever is between Pele, Mohammad Ali, Sobers, Lance Armstrong, Senna, Larissa Latyusina ( sp?) and Carl Lewis.
I misread that last one as Chris Lewis and nearly choked on my Coffee!
 

Kweek

Cricketer Of The Year
for me, Armstrong is high in that list.
for dutch cricket i have to say Tim de Leede
Dennis Bergkamp
Van den Hoogeband(the swimmer)
Phelps
Tiger!
Schummi

and other people I cant think off
 

Cloete

International Captain
C_C said:
Disagree.
Lance Amstrong is definately up there but on what basis do you rate Bradman so highly, given that Sobers was the best CRICKETER ever to play the game ?
And Pele, muhammad Ali were far higher than Lomu or Warney or Schumi.

And i used to follow motor sports avidly and by almost unequivocal agreement in the F1 community, Ayerton Senna was the best F1 driver in the history of the sport.
Schumi battles with Jim Clarke for second best.

I would say overall, the best sportsman ever is between Pele, Mohammad Ali, Sobers, Lance Armstrong, Senna, Larissa Latyusina ( sp?) and Carl Lewis.
Nope Bradman was the best ever CRICKETER :)

I'm assuming you're taking into consideration Sobers' bowling. But as far as I'm concerned, Bradman's batting ability eclipses Sobers easy. I mean averaging 99.94 is absolutely amazing, nothing any other cricketer has produced beats that.
 

Slats4ever

International Vice-Captain
yeah CC's weird. he keeps c*rapping on abuot what he feels is the best "cricketer" and only he seems to know what this term means. Bradman is easily the best player to play the game and most valuable. Sobers might lead the rest but who knows.
 

C_C

International Captain
I'm assuming you're taking into consideration Sobers' bowling. But as far as I'm concerned, Bradman's batting ability eclipses Sobers easy. I mean averaging 99.94 is absolutely amazing, nothing any other cricketer has produced beats that.
Look, to be blunt, dont be an idiot.
A quality allrounder is MUCH MORE VALUABLE than a quality batsman or bowler and that applies for ANY sport.

In Ice Hockey, Grestksy(the bradman) isnt as good a player as Bobby Hull ( Sobers).

YOU explain to me how the feck bradman is the 'most valuable player', setting aside your pro-aussie prejudice and bias.

YOU tell me which player is more valuable :

Player X, who scores 100 runs, is ordinary on the field and cannot bowl worth shyte or Player Y, who scores 58 runs, saves another 20-30 in the field, holds on to stuninng catches and takes 2-3 wickets @ 30-odd !

Its patently ludicrous to say that player X is a better 'overall player'.

8-)

None of you have justified as to how a player who can only score 100 runs is better than one who can score 58, take 2-3 wickets and save a dozen or so runs in the field, while holding on to stunning catches!

Apparently yer hypocritical idiocy knows no bounds.
When Jonty Rhodes comes up, some of you tout him as 'must have' in yer team, simply coz he saves 15-20 runs in the field regularly....but the same doesnt apply for Sobers.

I am getting rather tired of this an*l obsessive behaviour that 'aussies are the best players in every fricking discipline, warney is as good as murali, bradman is da best, blahblahblah' crappola which is almost NEVER justified logically.
 

C_C

International Captain
benchmark00 said:
Youre the only idiot at the minute

Look, kid, dont make comments like a dolt without trying to back it up.
Makes you look rather silly.
 

age_master

Hall of Fame Member
Bradman was quite a reasonable fielder and captain also, not to mention that being an all rounder wasn't his role in the team, also All rounders are not necessarily needed, i think that you will find that the Australian team of recent years hasn't had an all rounder and has done quite well - a great batsman who bowls well comes in handy, but i think that the best batsman ever by a long long long way, is more valuable
 

C_C

International Captain
Have you EVER watched cricket clips of that era ?
Nobody was even 'below average' by modern levels before Colin Bland and Sobers came along.
They crowded around the bat and if you could beat the close fielders and the outfield was decently fast, it was a garanteed boundary.
Any diving stops ? No.
Any athletic reflexive stops ? No.
They jsut chased the ball to the boundary and picked it up when it slowed down or stopped.
THATS IT!
Thats the level of 'fielding' in the pre-war era.

I consider the one who has the ability to make the most impact in a match to be the most valuable.
If you get Bradman for a duck, his contribution is gonna be negligible from then forth.
If you get Sobers for a duck, he could still wreck you with his bowling, snare some stunning catches or stop a few dozen runs in the field with his athleticism.

Its rather obvious who has the ability to have more of an impact.
A batting God with an over-inflated average or an allrounder God who is in the top 5 alltime as a batsman,fielder and top 10% as a bowler.
 

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