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Best South African opener?
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ataraxia
International Coach
And Mitchell?
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
Played in the flattest era of the sport and.averaged in the 30's vs Australia on literally the flattest pitches ever (yes vs the only two great bowlers of the time), but still
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
Barry
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
If the openers were to be rated as purely cricketers, I'd say
Barry>(>)Barlow>Goddard>Mitchell>Smith.
Barry>(>)Barlow>Goddard>Mitchell>Smith.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
I'm sure many see it as a meme or joke, but Barry was an upper top tier level batsman. He was simply brilliant.
If the aliens are landing tomorrow and we are in the time machine collecting players to play for earth, he's one of the first and easiest picks.
He also is part of the link of best batsmen in the world from Hobbs to Smith.
If the aliens are landing tomorrow and we are in the time machine collecting players to play for earth, he's one of the first and easiest picks.
He also is part of the link of best batsmen in the world from Hobbs to Smith.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Was Barry unanimously rated ahead of Gavaskar?
DrWolverine
International Regular
Barry played 4 Tests as an opener.
Mitchell played 27 Tests as an opener.
Smith played 113 Tests as an opener.
Mitchell played 27 Tests as an opener.
Smith played 113 Tests as an opener.
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
In the 70's?
Yes.
For the first 5 years of the 70's until Viv exploded into the scene, he was seen as the best batsman in the world. Period.
That's Chappell, Gavaskar and back end of career Sobers.
I'm sure you've read me saying this but Lille rates him with Sobers and Viv, Procter rates him with Sobers as the best he's seen, him ahead though. There's an entire list of names.
Even Bradman called him the best opener he'd seen. That included Sunny and Hutton.
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
Don't think this thread is asking for the better "test" opener.
And did you expect Mitchell to play 100 tests in the 30's?
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
kyear2
Hall of Fame Member
DrWolverine
International Regular
People on this sub are hesitant to call Bumrah as an all time great despite picking 200+ Test wickets at an average of 19.4
The same people are okay with calling Barry Richards who played 4 Tests a better batsman than the guy who once held the record for most runs and most centuries and has multiple centuries against Roberts, Holding, Garner, Marshall, Imran, Hadlee, Willis, Thomson & Botham.
The same people are okay with calling Barry Richards who played 4 Tests a better batsman than the guy who once held the record for most runs and most centuries and has multiple centuries against Roberts, Holding, Garner, Marshall, Imran, Hadlee, Willis, Thomson & Botham.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Why do you get angry when I posted a simple fact
PlayerComparisons
International Captain
I think Barry and Pollock were as good as Viv and Sobers generally but I can understand why most don’t rate them that high in tests with their lack of games
sayon basak
Cricketer Of The Year
I didn't get angry. I just said that the thread might not be asking this purely based on tests.
I apologize if I've caused any trouble.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Barry Richards
4 Tests. 7 innings. 508 runs @ 72.57. 2 centuries.
Sunil Gavaskar’s first 4 Tests
4 Tests. 8 innings. 774 runs @ 154. 4 centuries.
4 Tests. 7 innings. 508 runs @ 72.57. 2 centuries.
Sunil Gavaskar’s first 4 Tests
4 Tests. 8 innings. 774 runs @ 154. 4 centuries.
DrWolverine
International Regular
Just joking man.
Hutton played in the toughest batting era.
Sunny took on the greatest fastest bowlers.
I am not comfortable when people are rating a guy who played 4 Tests over these two legends.