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Best ODI Captain

Best ODI Captain

  • Ricky Ponting

    Votes: 8 21.6%
  • Stephen Fleming

    Votes: 29 78.4%
  • Saurav Ganguly

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Brain Lara

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    37

Craig

World Traveller
And unfortunatly, if an injury were to strike, Yuvraj would be in, and Siram would next be in line. Their whole top 6 picks themselves.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
If Chopra were to get dropped (IMO he's not, quite, Test standard) I'd pick Sriram instantly.
I still like Das and Ramesh, though, and I'd have picked Sriram when Sidhu retired, when Gandhi was dropped, when they realised Laxman wasn't an opener, when Jaffer was dropped the first time, when they realised Dasgupta wasn't an opener, when Das was dropped, when Jaffer was dropped the second time, and when Bangar was dropped.
Basically, they've had ample chance to pick him and they never have. I simply can't understand that; he's played for the "A"-team often enough.
 

Craig

World Traveller
That maybe so that Chopra isnt up to Test standard.

But I dont see the need to drop him as he really compliments Sehwag when he goes beresk. He runs well between the wickets, gives the strike regulary over to Sehwag and of course is the best Indian short leg fielder I have seen in years.

Mind you Ganguly has said that Yuravj's spot maybe as an opener.
 

Richard

Cricket Web Staff Member
I still have my doubts about Sehwag the Test opener.
If he'd not been as lucky as he was in Australia he wouldn't have been nearly so succesful. And the bowling wasn't exactkly great, either.
Personally I'd like either Das-Sriram, Das-Ramesh or Sriram-Ramesh.
 

Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
I respect that opinion Richard, but I beg to differ. I was actually very very impressed with Chopra during the Test Series. He made at least 30-40 each game, except the poor guy just didn't know how to go on with it.

He had a good technique and, unlike his opening partner, his shot selection was excellent. He also defended his wicket extremely well. Good to see an old style player.:)
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
Same as the best Test captain and overall best captain...Fleming.

Steve Waugh was superb though, it wasn't just his team that won him matches, he was a better captain than Taylor in my opinion and pushed his players to great heights, where any other captain might just have let them off easy. It ultimately turned the players and the team it's self into the world's strongest side and the holder of most consecutive Test victories...
 

Cactus

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
tooextracool said:


lara shouldnt even be mentioned here

ganguly is ordinary in my opinion because he has a very talented side perhaps just as talented as the aussies, yet they doesnt seem to be able to beat them.
this should be the other way round. Ganguly shouldn't even be mentioned here! and Lara is ordinary........

Ganguly has one of the best teams. and the fact that they have very young players is really good sign as well. they have the massive capability to beat Aus left right and centre yet he only manages to beat them once in the last ODI series.

at least lara has the excuse of not having a star team or something like that....
 

Cactus

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
BlackCap_Fan said:
Anyone who thinks Ponting is the best captain is either a Biased Aussie,or an Aussie.

Fleming is the best captain in the world,end of story.
i am in total agreement. how on Earth can anyone classify Ponting as one of the best captains. He's probably one of the newest captains around!

so far he has proved to be a good captain....not the "BEST" captain

i'm glad there's no one here i know personally or i'd be hunted down for saying that i agree with a New Zealander that their captain is the best in the world!:D

(not that i have anything against the Kiwis):)
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Cactus said:
i am in total agreement. how on Earth can anyone classify Ponting as one of the best captains. He's probably one of the newest captains around!
Been in the job quite a while actually.

And in that time he did lead Aus to something like 20 wins in a row.
 

Cactus

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
marc71178 said:
Been in the job quite a while actually.

And in that time he did lead Aus to something like 20 wins in a row.
are you talking about ponting or waugh?
 

Cactus

School Boy/Girl Cricketer
marc71178 said:
Been in the job quite a while actually.

And in that time he did lead Aus to something like 20 wins in a row.
are you talking about ponting or waugh?
 

Neil Pickup

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Ponting in ODIs.

I'd take Fleming over anyone by a margin.

Still, won't save you over here in May/June.. ;)
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Mr. Ponting said:
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Richard man, if you had ANY idea you wouldn't be saying that.

I am not saying Ponting is the best of the listed captains, I put Fleming as my best, but really. Did you watch any of the recent VB series? His captaincy was superb, all the right decisions at the right times. I'm sure many people could back this up.

My list of those captains:

1. Fleming (Magnificent, one of the best I have seen)
2. Ponting
3. Ganguly (He's good, but IMO he doesn't use his bowlers very well)
4. Lara (Just not as good as the forementioned.)
I dont think he could make too many wrong decisions....... I dont think it was possible...

And, remarkably, I actually picked Pontings bowling changes and when they would occur around 90% of the time. So basically, I would have done just a good a job as Ponting with the captaincy.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
A memorable quote by Adam Hollioake:

"A monkey could lead this team"
 

BlackCap_Fan

State Vice-Captain
Neil Pickup said:
Ponting in ODIs.

I'd take Fleming over anyone by a margin.

Still, won't save you over here in May/June.. ;)
oh no,is Harmison going to bowl on the pitch in that series?

is vaughns strike rate going to be above 19.00?

IM SPOOKED.

well,looks like a couple thousand more runs to fleming,and a hundred more wickets to tuffey and oram....

pass the popcorn.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
BlackCap_Fan said:
oh no,is Harmison going to bowl on the pitch in that series?
if harmison dont get u jones must!!

BlackCap_Fan said:
is vaughns strike rate going to be above 19.00?
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im quite sure vaughan's strike rate will be higher than all of ur nz players bar cairns

BlackCap_Fan said:
well,looks like a couple thousand more runs to fleming,and a hundred more wickets to tuffey and oram....

pass the popcorn. [/B]
hehe good joke....if ur team has any chance of winning the series it will rely heavily on shane bond and daniel vettori(crucial to last times victory)
oram=nz version of flintoff
tuffey=nz version of matthew hoggard
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
Ponting is one of the best captains, since he has a great team and he can also use those resources well. Fleming doesn't have those resources, but he can use a few star players and a whole lot of loyal players who can work well together, to win a few matches, but the lack of great players is exposed against a team like Australia.

Lara, on the other hand, is trying to lead a bunch of players who are rather disorganised. Besides, they don't help him much with their fielding and running between wickets, or the lack of either.

Ganguly is definitely the worst captain around. Look at the number of bowling failures he has had, that can cost a match, and have. Three times, his team has been guilty of conceding 340+ totals and not once do we see steps of improvement- in fact, they go backwards. The worst part is that when the fielding is a bit weak, the captain of the team is the worst fielder, so he can't do anything about it! Why he still persists with that match-losing move of Dravid keeping is a mystery.
 

tooextracool

International Coach
Arjun said:
Ganguly is definitely the worst captain around. Look at the number of bowling failures he has had, that can cost a match, and have. Three times, his team has been guilty of conceding 340+ totals and not once do we see steps of improvement- in fact, they go backwards. The worst part is that when the fielding is a bit weak, the captain of the team is the worst fielder, so he can't do anything about it! Why he still persists with that match-losing move of Dravid keeping is a mystery.
im not a big fan of ganguly but to be honest with you he is the best choice for captain out of the current bunch of players in the indian team. he may not be very smart or innovative but he leads from the front and his team respects him. but as i said earlier...his captaincy is nothing but ordinary and should never have been considered as the best around.
i dont think its his decision abt whether dravid should keep, its upto the coach and the selectors to decide who plays and who doesnt although he does have a miniscule role in deciding the final 11
 

Arjun

Cricketer Of The Year
to be honest with you he is the best choice for captain out of the current bunch of players in the indian team.
That cannot mask the fact that he is a bad captain. Besides,. Laxman, Dravid and Kumble are better captains. At least Dravid tries different things to get results, rather than persist with something that just does not work and has no hope.

he may not be very smart or innovative but he leads from the front and his team respects him.
A sound thrashing of his bowlers from West Indian or Australian batsmen puts him on the back foot. Besides, even though there are the likes of Yuvraj and Kaif on the field, the captain himself can't field and that too rubs off on the rest of the team.

i dont think its his decision abt whether dravid should keep, its upto the coach and the selectors to decide who plays and who doesnt although he does have a miniscule role in deciding the final 11
At least Kirmani was doing the right thing in gettign Parthiv to keep in ODI's. Parthiv may not be the greatest WK around, but he's FAR better than Dravid, who is unfortunately considered again for a job where he cannot be of any use.
 

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