Howe_zat
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Turns out only Imran has a better record as a fast bowling captain. Beats Wasim, Waqar, Willis, Walsh and Kapil, and beats all of them for batting average too. Seems to have gone pretty underrated.
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best bowlers in the 90s
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Teja.
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In all fairness, He absolutely destroyed the WI twice, which had a very strong batting line-up in that period.
bagapath
International Captain
Yes I am. But I do watch world cinema.
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stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Almost identical to mine, except that I had Taylor over Anwar.
It's an interesting comparison, but I believe Taylor was more consistent than Anwar. In fact Tubbs had an average over 40 vs every opponent except the West Indies. Anwar, by comparison, had poor averages versus England, South Africa and the West Indies. All of which had strong fast bowling attacks during the 90s.
Anwar certainly was more stylish though.
salman85
International Debutant
Search 'Wasim Akram No Smoking Ad'.
It is on youtube.
And is the Krypton Factor that game where the contestants had to pass various hurdles?I remember watching that video on youtube,and Wasim owned everyone.That was pre-1992 too i think.
Blaze 18
Banned
Good side. I'd make two changes to it : Taylor and Waqar for Anwar and Donald.
Howe_zat
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While I think Donald was equal to or perhaps better than Waqar as a bowler, I'd rather have waqar in the team. You've got Wasim figgin' Akram to open and Ambrose who can take wickets while being impossible to score off, so there's no qualms about keeping Waqar as the wildcard. If the other bowlers were hot-and-cold efforts you'd take Donald.
Blaze 18
Banned
I'd take Waqar over Donald even over their entire careers. Bloody hard to split them mind, both true greats of the game.
Teja.
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Ftr, Now I think about it, If I try to make a completely unbiased judgement, Waqar isn't the best fast bowler of the last 20 years for even me even though he is an ATG. McG is. However, I'd have Allan Donald as No.2, better than Waqar, Ambrose or Akram.
It's awesome just how complete and good Donald was.
It's awesome just how complete and good Donald was.
smash84
The Tiger King
you understand hindi/urdu or you watch with sub-titles???? I find it extremely cumbersome to watch a whole movie with sub-titles....
smash84
The Tiger King
Donald is massively under-rated and McGrath wasn't as good in the 90s as he was in 00s. I still won't take Donald over Akram or Amby I think. He might make my side over Waqar though although as somebody mentioned that having wasim and ambrose gives me a great combo to put in a very attacking bowler.
Maximus0723
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Absolutely ditto.
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
You know I kinda miss the late 90s.
The WI had Ambrose and Walsh
Australia had McGrath and Warne
South Africa had Donald and Pollock
Pakistan had Wasim and Waqar
Sri Lanka and Murali and Vaas (which in the 90s were admittedly not as formidable as the other pairings)
and even Zimbabwe had Streak
Such an even spread of excellent bowling stocks. And what do we have now:
South Africa have Steyn and Morkel
England have Anderson and Tremlett
That's about the extent of notable test match attacks these days. It's quite sad really (though Steyn really is a top class bowler).
The WI had Ambrose and Walsh
Australia had McGrath and Warne
South Africa had Donald and Pollock
Pakistan had Wasim and Waqar
Sri Lanka and Murali and Vaas (which in the 90s were admittedly not as formidable as the other pairings)
and even Zimbabwe had Streak
Such an even spread of excellent bowling stocks. And what do we have now:
South Africa have Steyn and Morkel
England have Anderson and Tremlett
That's about the extent of notable test match attacks these days. It's quite sad really (though Steyn really is a top class bowler).
stephen
Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
While I do rate both Donald and Waqar very highly, there is just no way that I can go past Ambrose as a quick bowler. He just seemed to destroy Australia time and time again in a way I have not seen anyone else be able to do. Ambrose played more tests than anyone else who managed to average under 21. He also was the second leading wicket taker of the 90s (behind Warne) and has an excellent record everywhere in the world. The only gap in his CV was against India (at home).
The two best fast bowlers that I have seen are unquestionably (in my mind) Ambrose and McGrath. Both were absolute wrecking balls and won so many games by themselves.
ankitj
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It isn't too hard to split if you ask me. Waqar over his entire career took more wickets of weaker and lower valued batsmen while averaging higher than Donald. Donald is almost a good as Ambrose and McGrath in my books, ahead of the 2W's.
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Maximus0723
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This.
smash84
The Tiger King
There is not too much difference between the percentage of top order wickets between Waqar and Donald.
HowSTAT! Wickets by Batting Order Graph
HowSTAT! Wickets by Batting Order Graph
It's that Donald has a very complete record. He has done very well against every team. The highest he averages is 31 against Aus and except for 2 tests that he played in Pakistan he has a sub 30 average in all countries. WAG. Massively under rated.
It is surprising that a few ATG fast bowlers have their worst records in Pakistan. McGrath, Lillee, Donald