Ben Stokes to take indefinite break from Cricket

[sledger]

Yeah, yeah, you suddenly realize you have a mental health issue after getting spanked in few matches in the middle of the tour. That is very convenient. If you have issues, then it is YOUR responsible to take treatment and ask your therapist whether you are fit for the job ahead in every major decision you take. If you lack insight that you are needed get assessed, then it is a psychotic illness and nbeed specialized treatment. "I have a mental health issue" in the middle of a thing horribly going wrong is a well known way to chicken out of the task.

Wow

Dire

 

[NZTailender]

Could also be he wasn't right mentally to start with, and his poor performances were reflective of that, rather than the other way around.

It's almost as if mental health is a complex issue, and people struggling will fight a variety of mind ****s from "if I drop out before the series I'll be letting the team down" to "we're getting hammered, I bet it's all my fault, I should drop out so they won't find me a burden anymore" and finally "everyone thinks I'm a coward because I gave up and I've let everyone down, from the team to the country."

But yeah, just chicken out mid series because you want to idk, protect your stats? get ****ed.

edit: last line not directed at cnerd123, who is great.

 

[RossTaylorsBox]

Yeah, yeah, you suddenly realize you have a mental health issue after getting spanked in few matches in the middle of the tour. That is very convenient. If you have issues, then it is YOUR responsible to take treatment and ask your therapist whether you are fit for the job ahead in every major decision you take. If you lack insight that you are needed get assessed, then it is a psychotic illness and nbeed specialized treatment. "I have a mental health issue" in the middle of a thing horribly going wrong is a well known way to chicken out of the task.

Lol shut up idiot

 

[Aritro]

Yeah, yeah, you suddenly realize you have a mental health issue after getting spanked in few matches in the middle of the tour. That is very convenient. If you have issues, then it is YOUR responsible to take treatment and ask your therapist whether you are fit for the job ahead in every major decision you take. If you lack insight that you are needed get assessed, then it is a psychotic illness and nbeed specialized treatment. "I have a mental health issue" in the middle of a thing horribly going wrong is a well known way to chicken out of the task.

Lol, yeah this is why I don't comment on quantum mechanics. Cos I know **** all about it and anything I say will only reveal how little I understand about how it works and what it, indeed, is.

 

[sledger]

What's the point of this thread anyway? Just gives a platform to ***** like migara to belittle people struggling with their mental health

 

[anil1405]

It's almost as if mental health is a complex issue, and people struggling will fight a variety of mind ****s from "if I drop out before the series I'll be letting the team down" to "we're getting hammered, I bet it's all my fault, I should drop out so they won't find me a burden anymore" and finally "everyone thinks I'm a coward because I gave up and I've let everyone down, from the team to the country."

And then when you go and tell this to someone there is a higher probability that you are branded as being silly and are laughed at, which is why majority of the ones suffering do not open up.

Which is why what Stokes did is really appreciated.

 

[akilana]

Yeah, yeah, you suddenly realize you have a mental health issue after getting spanked in few matches in the middle of the tour. That is very convenient. If you have issues, then it is YOUR responsible to take treatment and ask your therapist whether you are fit for the job ahead in every major decision you take. If you lack insight that you are needed get assessed, then it is a psychotic illness and nbeed specialized treatment. "I have a mental health issue" in the middle of a thing horribly going wrong is a well known way to chicken out of the task.

This is why people don’t want to be open about it and struggle with it forever until they can’t cope anymore.

 

[honestbharani]

It's almost as if mental health is a complex issue, and people struggling will fight a variety of mind ****s from "if I drop out before the series I'll be letting the team down" to "we're getting hammered, I bet it's all my fault, I should drop out so they won't find me a burden anymore" and finally "everyone thinks I'm a coward because I gave up and I've let everyone down, from the team to the country."

But yeah, just chicken out mid series because you want to idk, protect your stats? get ****ed.

edit: last line not directed at cnerd123, who is great.

It is also a reason why I have little time for trolls like Vaughan. The idiot may well think he is just trolling but who knows what mental health issues he is causing to some of the current players, from wherever they are. Such a PoS it takes to think of these things in this manner. Same with Piers Morgan. Its scary that people like Migara buy into these BS views. People genuinely go through torture in their minds and even if we can't help them, lets not please add to that torture.

 

[GIMH]

On Swann - it was largely injury that had him pull the trigger wasn't it? I'm unaware of any citation of mental health issues but I could be wrong. And the urn was gone so why worsen a deteroriating condition. Burgey may well be correct in his case but they aren't things existing in a vacuum regardless. If you're in a hole and things go wrong, that hole seems a lot deeper. And physical issues tie into mental issues as well (or can do).

I think the obvious example from 2013 is Trott. He clearly didn't cite mental health because of his performances; it was clearly completely the other way round.

 

[OverratedSanity]

On Swann - it was largely injury that had him pull the trigger wasn't it? I'm unaware of any citation of mental health issues but I could be wrong. And the urn was gone so why worsen a deteroriating condition. Burgey may well be correct in his case but they aren't things existing in a vacuum regardless. If you're in a hole and things go wrong, that hole seems a lot deeper. And physical issues tie into mental issues as well (or can do).

I think the obvious example from 2013 is Trott. He clearly didn't cite mental health because of his performances; it was clearly completely the other way round.

I think if it actually was an (elbow?) injury it looked bad because he came back to England and someone else (Prior iirc) stayed back. Again though, I'm not aware of how bad his injury was and the actual value of his staying back with the squad for morale purposes is questionable at best.

 

[Red_Ink_Squid]

I think if it actually was an (elbow?) injury it looked bad because he came back to England and someone else (Prior iirc) stayed back. Again though, I'm not aware of how bad his injury was and the actual value of his staying back with the squad for morale purposes is questionable at best.

Some might say that Swann leaving the tour would have improved his team's morale....

 

[The Hutt Rec]

It is also a reason why I have little time for trolls like Vaughan. The idiot may well think he is just trolling but who knows what mental health issues he is causing to some of the current players, from wherever they are. Such a PoS it takes to think of these things in this manner. Same with Piers Morgan. Its scary that people like Migara buy into these BS views. People genuinely go through torture in their minds and even if we can't help them, lets not please add to that torture.

I’m surprised anyone wants to play cricket for England or have any sort of public facing role at all with the media/tabloid culture over there. I reckon it must have held back their national teams for decades, the pressure and criticism is so OTT.

 

[TheJediBrah]

I’m surprised anyone wants to play cricket for England or have any sort of public facing role at all with the media/tabloid culture over there. I reckon it must have held back their national teams for decades, the pressure and criticism is so OTT.

Yeah playing for other countries *cough* India * cough* is way less pressure

 

[Flem274*]

i think it has gotten worse with social media. you're accessible 24/7.

im sure a fair few of us are old enough to remember the days when media personalities were allowed to personally abuse athletes under the guise of discussing their commitment or game intelligence. thankfully that chat is on the way out now.

 

[honestbharani]

i think it has gotten worse with social media. you're accessible 24/7.

im sure a fair few of us are old enough to remember the days when media personalities were allowed to personally abuse athletes under the guise of discussing their commitment or game intelligence. thankfully that chat is on the way out now.

 

[GIMH]

I’m surprised anyone wants to play cricket for England or have any sort of public facing role at all with the media/tabloid culture over there. I reckon it must have held back their national teams for decades, the pressure and criticism is so OTT.

Cricketers don't get too bad a time, relatively speaking.

The footballers on the other hand...

 

[wpdavid]

Cricketers don't get too bad a time, relatively speaking.

The footballers on the other hand...

Not many non-white England cricketers to cop the racist abuse nowadays. And it's a different target audience too, I suppose.

Going back to Swann, I'm always surprised how offensive some of the Australians found the sprinkler routine in 2010/11. It seemed harmless enough to me, but maybe it crossed some people's lines.

 

[cnerd123]

What's the point of this thread anyway? Just gives a platform to ****s like migara to belittle people struggling with their mental health

imagine if someone opened a thread called 'Washington Sundar to take indefinite break from cricket" after he injured his fingers?

 

[Daemon]

Is it really an issue if a player pulls out mid-tour because he's had a shocker?

Why can't the source or trigger for mental health issues be your poor performance?

 

[cnerd123]

Is it really an issue if a player pulls out mid-tour because he's had a shocker?

Why can't the source or trigger for mental health issues be your poor performance?

it can