Battle of the Bashers: Sehwag vs Gilchrist

[subshakerz]

In tests. Moving forward from the Gilchrist thread, I had this idea.

Two feared bats with certain flaws but amazing SRs. Who is the better bat?

 

[Burgey]

Sehwag

 

[Zinzan]

As a pure test bat and discounting Gilchrist's keeping/all-round value, then Sehwag quite obviously.

 

[vicleggie]

Equally as valuable- having an opening test batsman like Sehwag, and having a number 7 like Gilly who also keeps.

Sehwag seemed a bit shaky on spicy pitches, but he was still quality.

On pure batting I'd say Sehwag, considering you want the top 5 making most of your runs.

 

[sunilz]

This is similar to Cummins vs Bumrah. Where though both are excellent and highly entertaining , one is definitely better but by a small margin.

 

[CricAddict]

As a pure test bat and discounting Gilchrist's keeping/all-round value, then Sehwag quite obviously.

Yes, I am surprised that Gilchrist is getting votes here. Sehwag excelled in a tough job while Gilchrist for all the good batting skills that he had, did quite a lot of downhill skiiing with all those greats coming above him.

 

[sunilz]

Yes, I am surprised that Gilchrist is getting votes here. Sehwag excelled in a tough job while Gilchrist for all the good batting skills that he had, did quite a lot of downhill skiiing with all those greats coming above him.

Gilchrist like Sehwag played many ATG knocks. I won't call him downhill skier. But I rate Sehwag marginally better.

 

[Prince EWS]

I think it's a bit closer than some people are saying. Gilchrist didn't having the glaring weaknesses that made Sehwag useless in proper seaming conditions. I voted for Sehwag because I don't like analysis by checklist at the best of times (I think you can make up for those sort of weaknesses by being extra godly elsewhere in a way most of CW doesn't seem to) and I think opening is a harder job than batting 7 after one of the best top orders of all time... but it's close.

 

[sunilz]

I think it's a bit closer than some people are saying. Gilchrist didn't having the glaring weaknesses that made Sehwag useless in proper seaming conditions. I voted for Sehwag because I don't like analysis by checklist at the best of times (I think you can make up for those sort of weaknesses by being extra godly elsewhere in a way most of CW doesn't seem to) and I think opening is a harder job than batting 7 after one of the best top orders of all time... but it's close.

Like I wrote earlier it is like Cummins vs Bumrah. It is close but one is definitely better.

 

[CricAddict]

Gilchrist like Sehwag played many ATG knocks. I won't call him downhill skier. But I rate Sehwag marginally better.

I am not saying he is a downhill skier. I know he played a lot of great knocks and I do rate him very very highly. I am just saying that he played a lot of good downhill skiing knocks too after the ATG top order set the base for him.

 

[CricAddict]

Like I wrote earlier it is like Cummins vs Bumrah. It is close but one is definitely better.

I am surprised to find that Cummins has played just 13 more tests than Bumrah who I thought debuted way later even post Cummins's second coming. And India don't even do the testspam like England.

 

[Prince EWS]

Like I wrote earlier it is like Cummins vs Bumrah. It is close but one is definitely better.

I'm surprised more people aren't voting for Gilchrist tbh, he does better on the sort of analysis by checklist thing CW likes to do. "He has less holes in his record" as you guys like to say.

 

[RiderJake]

I'm surprised more people aren't voting for Gilchrist tbh, he does better on the sort of analysis by checklist thing CW likes to do. "He has less holes in his record" as you guys like to say.

My vote is for Gilchrist, even if I'm wrong.
Hi all!

 

[sunilz]

I am surprised to find that Cummins has played just 13 more tests than Bumrah who I thought debuted way later even post Cummins's second coming. And India don't even do the testspam like England.

Cummins only became regular in Aus side from 2017 Ashes iirc. ?
But unlike Bumrah he regularly plays nowadays. India don't play Bumrah at home , yet he misses most of the tournaments nowadays.

 

[subshakerz]

Yes, I am surprised that Gilchrist is getting votes here. Sehwag excelled in a tough job while Gilchrist for all the good batting skills that he had, did quite a lot of downhill skiiing with all those greats coming above him.

Gilchrist unlike Sehwag wasnt dire in England, NZ and SA.

 

[subshakerz]

I'm surprised more people aren't voting for Gilchrist tbh, he does better on the sort of analysis by checklist thing CW likes to do. "He has less holes in his record" as you guys like to say.

Yeah that is why I thought this battle would be interesting, because Gilchrist actually has a more rounded record than Sehwag. I think the votes so far just reflect the instant gut decision.

 

[sunilz]

Gilchrist unlike Sehwag wasnt dire in England, NZ and SA.

So when did Gilchrist open in those countries?
Gilchrist was a complete shocker in 2005 Ashes iirc even when he didn't have to face new ball.

 

[subshakerz]

So when did Gilchrist open in those countries?
Gilchrist was a complete shocker in 2005 Ashes iirc even when he didn't have to face new ball.

Gilchrist played more series than just the 2005 Ashes.

Yeah that is fair enough, so you have to compare someone who flopped as opener vs someone who did well but batting deep in the order, who would you rate higher?

 

[TheJediBrah]

So when did Gilchrist open in those countries?
Gilchrist was a complete shocker in 2005 Ashes iirc even when he didn't have to face new ball.

Murray minted ball way harder than new ball brah

 

[sunilz]

Yeah that is fair enough, so you have to compare someone who flopped as opener vs someone who did well but batting deep in the order, who would you rate higher?

So Gilchrist did well against India by averaging 28 against them.