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Barry Richards vs George Headley vs Graeme Pollock

Headley vs Pollock vs Richards


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kyear2

International Coach
Agree with most of this but to be fair at least this thread is actually meant to be partly about him. Someone starts a thread about Richards, talk about Richards.

It's far more annoying when he brings him up unprovoked, like the other day when someone said Gavaskar was the only modern ATG Test opener (or something like that), or your thread a month or two ago asking people to people compare a specific list of openers that he was apparently outraged Richards wasn't on.
Lots of things in the forum are annoying, yet we make it though.

In both instances, it was very much related.

Someone said Sunny was the only A class opener to debut since WW 2, and I was just offering my opinion, I believe that's still allowed?

And the poll in question specifically asked, after Sunny who was the best modern opener. Again I asked why one was excluded, especially when mine was quite possibly going to be the only vote received for said option.
Lots of polls here are opened and are added to if anyone proposes an alternative or raises an objection, it happens almost every day. He wanted to make it an issue, I obliged.

I'm not trying to be difficult, some just don't like my opinions. But that doesn't mean I don't have the right to express them.
 

peterhrt

U19 Captain
Someone said Sunny was the only A class opener to debut since WW 2, and I was just offering my opinion
Gavaskar v Barry Richards is another generational debate where folk are unlikely to change their mind. Nevertheless, it may be of interest to trace the shift in opinion over time, at least in England. Simon Wilde wrote a book entitled Number One, where he attempted to list the leading batsman and bowler in the world chronologically between 1768 and 1997. When the author arrived at 1976 he wrote:

Expert opinion appeared divided as to the identity of the world's best batsman: it was known his name was Richards, but there was uncertainty whether it was Viv Richards or Barry Richards. This avalanche of runs swung it in favour of the Antiguan. Over the next nine years, [Viv] Richards stood unrivalled.

Wilde had chosen Barry Richards between 1970 and 1975, as had most commentators at the time. Shortage of Test experience was never an issue.

Gavaskar wasn't in the conversation and Packer ignored him when approaching the world's leading players. But after the epic 221 at The Oval in 1979, Hutton raised a few eyebrows by claiming that Gavaskar was now the world's best batsman and a preferable batting role model to Viv Richards. Gavaskar's claim that he never gave his wicket away impressed Hutton. Barry Richards had done so frequently. But a moderate one-off season for Somerset in 1980 (average 34) didn't advance Gavaskar's cause in English eyes. Some felt he was another Boycott or Turner, just a bit more efficient at putting away the bad ball.

After struggling against West Indies' fast bowlers in 1983, as most had, Gavaskar sought the advice of a confidant, who suggested a change of plan - attacking them from the start. In the next Test in Delhi, still donning his flimsy skullcap, he hooked Marshall for four and six in the first over, reached fifty off 37 balls, and a hundred off 94. When Marshall bounced him from round the wicket he carried on hooking, eventually falling for 121 from 128 deliveries. In the next match at Ahmedabad Gavaskar blasted 90 off 120 balls. His final innings of the series was his last against these opponents, and he scored 236*. Word spread and Gavaskar's reputation soared. Botham was particularly impressed and resolved to try the same when West Indies visited the following year.

Meanwhile feelings of nostalgia and sympathy towards South Africans Richards, Procter and Pollock remained. They were viewed as victims of their government's policies rather than beneficiaries, with reputations if anything enhanced through absence from international cricket.

That changed after apartheid was dismantled and a new government took power. The old Springboks were effectively erased from history, with new player numbers starting in 1992 from number one Kepler Wessels. Attitudes hardened elsewhere. When Wisden asked 100 leading figures within the game to name their five cricketers of the 20th century, eleven of their selectors were South African. Yet South African cricketers managed only seven votes between them: 1.4% of the total vote. Four of those went to Graeme Pollock, with one to each of Bruce Mitchell, Colin Bland and Allan Donald. Nobody voted for Richards or Procter. Gavaskar received twelve nominations himself.

Martin Crowe was not one of the selectors but had described Richards as the greatest post-war opener and included him in his all-time World XI to open with Hobbs. By 2014 he had changed his mind and had Gavaskar partnering Hobbs. Cricinfo's twelve judges were kinder to Richards in 2010 when they chose him to open for their second team with Gavaskar.

More than perhaps any other batsman bar Trumper, opinion has remained sharply divided between those who saw Barry Richards bat and those who didn't. As that old generation disappears, Gavaskar's reputation continues to flourish as the father figure of a thriving modern Indian cricket scene.
 

DrWolverine

U19 Captain
Graeme Hick was once considered the next big thing and then failed at the test level. Not saying Barry would fail but we have no idea how he would have done.

Just saying there are many examples of cricketers with excellent first class cricketers but couldn’t replicate the success at international level. There are also cricketers who were selected because of potential/first class record and did well in few Tests and then flattered.
 

govinda indian fan

State Vice-Captain
Gavaskar v Barry Richards is another generational debate where folk are unlikely to change their mind. Nevertheless, it may be of interest to trace the shift in opinion over time, at least in England. Simon Wilde wrote a book entitled Number One, where he attempted to list the leading batsman and bowler in the world chronologically between 1768 and 1997. When the author arrived at 1976 he wrote:

Expert opinion appeared divided as to the identity of the world's best batsman: it was known his name was Richards, but there was uncertainty whether it was Viv Richards or Barry Richards. This avalanche of runs swung it in favour of the Antiguan. Over the next nine years, [Viv] Richards stood unrivalled.

Wilde had chosen Barry Richards between 1970 and 1975, as had most commentators at the time. Shortage of Test experience was never an issue.

Gavaskar wasn't in the conversation and Packer ignored him when approaching the world's leading players. But after the epic 221 at The Oval in 1979, Hutton raised a few eyebrows by claiming that Gavaskar was now the world's best batsman and a preferable batting role model to Viv Richards. Gavaskar's claim that he never gave his wicket away impressed Hutton. Barry Richards had done so frequently. But a moderate one-off season for Somerset in 1980 (average 34) didn't advance Gavaskar's cause in English eyes. Some felt he was another Boycott or Turner, just a bit more efficient at putting away the bad ball.

After struggling against West Indies' fast bowlers in 1983, as most had, Gavaskar sought the advice of a confidant, who suggested a change of plan - attacking them from the start. In the next Test in Delhi, still donning his flimsy skullcap, he hooked Marshall for four and six in the first over, reached fifty off 37 balls, and a hundred off 94. When Marshall bounced him from round the wicket he carried on hooking, eventually falling for 121 from 128 deliveries. In the next match at Ahmedabad Gavaskar blasted 90 off 120 balls. His final innings of the series was his last against these opponents, and he scored 236*. Word spread and Gavaskar's reputation soared. Botham was particularly impressed and resolved to try the same when West Indies visited the following year.

Meanwhile feelings of nostalgia and sympathy towards South Africans Richards, Procter and Pollock remained. They were viewed as victims of their government's policies rather than beneficiaries, with reputations if anything enhanced through absence from international cricket.

That changed after apartheid was dismantled and a new government took power. The old Springboks were effectively erased from history, with new player numbers starting in 1992 from number one Kepler Wessels. Attitudes hardened elsewhere. When Wisden asked 100 leading figures within the game to name their five cricketers of the 20th century, eleven of their selectors were South African. Yet South African cricketers managed only seven votes between them: 1.4% of the total vote. Four of those went to Graeme Pollock, with one to each of Bruce Mitchell, Colin Bland and Allan Donald. Nobody voted for Richards or Procter. Gavaskar received twelve nominations himself.

Martin Crowe was not one of the selectors but had described Richards as the greatest post-war opener and included him in his all-time World XI to open with Hobbs. By 2014 he had changed his mind and had Gavaskar partnering Hobbs. Cricinfo's twelve judges were kinder to Richards in 2010 when they chose him to open for their second team with Gavaskar.

More than perhaps any other batsman bar Trumper, opinion has remained sharply divided between those who saw Barry Richards bat and those who didn't. As that old generation disappears, Gavaskar's reputation continues to flourish as the father figure of a thriving modern Indian cricket scene.
Dont think gavaskar was best batsman during 70-75. He was just starting his peak came from 76-82. Barry Richards is atg but that doesnt mean sunny is crap he is atg in his own right
 

kyear2

International Coach
Dont think gavaskar was best batsman during 70-75. He was just starting his peak came from 76-82. Barry Richards is atg but that doesnt mean sunny is crap he is atg in his own right
Don't think anyone has ever called Sunny crap. He's a legitimate top 10 batsman of all time.

So if anyone think s that my opinion it's dead wrong.

My top two teams for my AT XI are all super elite (and a couple from the 3rd).

There are two sections in my AT XI which are relatively contentious, Barry over Sunny and Wasim over Imran.

Barry over Sunny is 3 fold.

1. I believe Barry was better vs the faster stuff in seaming / swinging and yes, faster conditions.

2. The same way some think it's beneficial or even essential to have someone who can provide reverse swing in an attack, I think it's extremely beneficial to have someone who can score at a higher rate at the the top of the innings and set that tone. He's very likely the only post war opener who's capable of that.

3. From everything I've read he was a better slip than Sunny. It's not a primary consideration, but factored into everything else it's a plus and a point of emphasis for me.

Wasim over Imran.

1. Wasim was very arguably the greatest old ball bowler of all time.

2. Wasim was capable of swinging the ball both ways, conventionally and via reverse.

3. Left handedness brings a different dimension, and variety

Also don't think there was much to separate them as bowlers overall considering his late career health struggles and his overall lack of catching support during his career.

I would say though than Imran is closer to selection than Sunny, as his batting can be of higher value depending on the keeper chosen, and even with Gilchrist it's a toss up. Just prefer Wasim's intangibles.

There's no conspiracy or downplaying of anyone else.

Sunny is ****ing elite, period. But so was Barry and he was seen to be the better player while they both played in the 70's. That's it.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Gavaskar v Barry Richards is another generational debate where folk are unlikely to change their mind. Nevertheless, it may be of interest to trace the shift in opinion over time, at least in England. Simon Wilde wrote a book entitled Number One, where he attempted to list the leading batsman and bowler in the world chronologically between 1768 and 1997. When the author arrived at 1976 he wrote:

Expert opinion appeared divided as to the identity of the world's best batsman: it was known his name was Richards, but there was uncertainty whether it was Viv Richards or Barry Richards. This avalanche of runs swung it in favour of the Antiguan. Over the next nine years, [Viv] Richards stood unrivalled.

Wilde had chosen Barry Richards between 1970 and 1975, as had most commentators at the time. Shortage of Test experience was never an issue.

Gavaskar wasn't in the conversation and Packer ignored him when approaching the world's leading players. But after the epic 221 at The Oval in 1979, Hutton raised a few eyebrows by claiming that Gavaskar was now the world's best batsman and a preferable batting role model to Viv Richards. Gavaskar's claim that he never gave his wicket away impressed Hutton. Barry Richards had done so frequently. But a moderate one-off season for Somerset in 1980 (average 34) didn't advance Gavaskar's cause in English eyes. Some felt he was another Boycott or Turner, just a bit more efficient at putting away the bad ball.

After struggling against West Indies' fast bowlers in 1983, as most had, Gavaskar sought the advice of a confidant, who suggested a change of plan - attacking them from the start. In the next Test in Delhi, still donning his flimsy skullcap, he hooked Marshall for four and six in the first over, reached fifty off 37 balls, and a hundred off 94. When Marshall bounced him from round the wicket he carried on hooking, eventually falling for 121 from 128 deliveries. In the next match at Ahmedabad Gavaskar blasted 90 off 120 balls. His final innings of the series was his last against these opponents, and he scored 236*. Word spread and Gavaskar's reputation soared. Botham was particularly impressed and resolved to try the same when West Indies visited the following year.

Meanwhile feelings of nostalgia and sympathy towards South Africans Richards, Procter and Pollock remained. They were viewed as victims of their government's policies rather than beneficiaries, with reputations if anything enhanced through absence from international cricket.

That changed after apartheid was dismantled and a new government took power. The old Springboks were effectively erased from history, with new player numbers starting in 1992 from number one Kepler Wessels. Attitudes hardened elsewhere. When Wisden asked 100 leading figures within the game to name their five cricketers of the 20th century, eleven of their selectors were South African. Yet South African cricketers managed only seven votes between them: 1.4% of the total vote. Four of those went to Graeme Pollock, with one to each of Bruce Mitchell, Colin Bland and Allan Donald. Nobody voted for Richards or Procter. Gavaskar received twelve nominations himself.

Martin Crowe was not one of the selectors but had described Richards as the greatest post-war opener and included him in his all-time World XI to open with Hobbs. By 2014 he had changed his mind and had Gavaskar partnering Hobbs. Cricinfo's twelve judges were kinder to Richards in 2010 when they chose him to open for their second team with Gavaskar.

More than perhaps any other batsman bar Trumper, opinion has remained sharply divided between those who saw Barry Richards bat and those who didn't. As that old generation disappears, Gavaskar's reputation continues to flourish as the father figure of a thriving modern Indian cricket scene.

As usual an excellent post. The book by Wilde was one of my first introductions to Barry along with stories of his WSC exploits. And overall he, along with Chappell were the only guys even in Viv's neighborhood as a batsman. (Border came later and was more of a grinder).

The book raised questions of how could someone with such a short career be rated so very highly. And that was how good he had to be.

I am more interested in Crowe's opinion of Sunny during the era rather than decades later, and in any event it means he was still in the discussion.
Who was the father of the influential world power and reassessments means less to me. But as Barry's dominance fades into memories and perceived as nostalgia, so have Viv's as the later generations are more preoccupied with spreadsheets. The same will invariably also happen to O'Reilly, who isn't seen to be as good by many as the Indian duo. Because stats and volume.

If he's the greatest post war opener or not is arguable, what isn't is that he was in the conversation and can come no lower than 2nd. He was better than Greenidge, and he was without challenge my childhood hero and favorite player. He also has as much a claim as anyone else.

My only point of contention was the notion that the Cricinfo selectors were kinder to Barry. The structure of the top 5 vote was set up for disaster, and with Sobers and Bradman being automatics, it left space for only 3 votes and I wouldn't dream of saying he's in contention for any of those 3 votes. The Cricinfo vote was a clear cut question, name the top 4 openers, and he made it in. Only Sutcliffe would have cause for argument amongst the remainder.
 
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kyear2

International Coach
Graeme Hick was once considered the next big thing and then failed at the test level. Not saying Barry would fail but we have no idea how he would have done.

Just saying there are many examples of cricketers with excellent first class cricketers but couldn’t replicate the success at international level. There are also cricketers who were selected because of potential/first class record and did well in few Tests and then flattered.
People live to compare Hick to Barry with little to compare. Barry always performed at his best against the very best test playing competition of his day, Hick was very similar to Abbas and filled his boots vs spin and the slower medium stuff. People just like to keep repeating it without basis.

So you know how hard it is to get very limited opportunities and to perform as an opening batsman vs a strong Aussie attack almost a decade after debut?

But question, if his 2nd test series and WSC were magically given test status tomorrow, would your views of Barry's career change?

Not far from Atlas's 19 (pre war), and Tiger's 19 (vs Australia)

14 at mid 60's over the course of a decade.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Gavaskar v Barry Richards is another generational debate where folk are unlikely to change their mind. Nevertheless, it may be of interest to trace the shift in opinion over time, at least in England. Simon Wilde wrote a book entitled Number One, where he attempted to list the leading batsman and bowler in the world chronologically between 1768 and 1997. When the author arrived at 1976 he wrote:

Expert opinion appeared divided as to the identity of the world's best batsman: it was known his name was Richards, but there was uncertainty whether it was Viv Richards or Barry Richards. This avalanche of runs swung it in favour of the Antiguan. Over the next nine years, [Viv] Richards stood unrivalled.

Wilde had chosen Barry Richards between 1970 and 1975, as had most commentators at the time. Shortage of Test experience was never an issue.

Gavaskar wasn't in the conversation and Packer ignored him when approaching the world's leading players. But after the epic 221 at The Oval in 1979, Hutton raised a few eyebrows by claiming that Gavaskar was now the world's best batsman and a preferable batting role model to Viv Richards. Gavaskar's claim that he never gave his wicket away impressed Hutton. Barry Richards had done so frequently. But a moderate one-off season for Somerset in 1980 (average 34) didn't advance Gavaskar's cause in English eyes. Some felt he was another Boycott or Turner, just a bit more efficient at putting away the bad ball.

After struggling against West Indies' fast bowlers in 1983, as most had, Gavaskar sought the advice of a confidant, who suggested a change of plan - attacking them from the start. In the next Test in Delhi, still donning his flimsy skullcap, he hooked Marshall for four and six in the first over, reached fifty off 37 balls, and a hundred off 94. When Marshall bounced him from round the wicket he carried on hooking, eventually falling for 121 from 128 deliveries. In the next match at Ahmedabad Gavaskar blasted 90 off 120 balls. His final innings of the series was his last against these opponents, and he scored 236*. Word spread and Gavaskar's reputation soared. Botham was particularly impressed and resolved to try the same when West Indies visited the following year.

Meanwhile feelings of nostalgia and sympathy towards South Africans Richards, Procter and Pollock remained. They were viewed as victims of their government's policies rather than beneficiaries, with reputations if anything enhanced through absence from international cricket.

That changed after apartheid was dismantled and a new government took power. The old Springboks were effectively erased from history, with new player numbers starting in 1992 from number one Kepler Wessels. Attitudes hardened elsewhere. When Wisden asked 100 leading figures within the game to name their five cricketers of the 20th century, eleven of their selectors were South African. Yet South African cricketers managed only seven votes between them: 1.4% of the total vote. Four of those went to Graeme Pollock, with one to each of Bruce Mitchell, Colin Bland and Allan Donald. Nobody voted for Richards or Procter. Gavaskar received twelve nominations himself.

Martin Crowe was not one of the selectors but had described Richards as the greatest post-war opener and included him in his all-time World XI to open with Hobbs. By 2014 he had changed his mind and had Gavaskar partnering Hobbs. Cricinfo's twelve judges were kinder to Richards in 2010 when they chose him to open for their second team with Gavaskar.

More than perhaps any other batsman bar Trumper, opinion has remained sharply divided between those who saw Barry Richards bat and those who didn't. As that old generation disappears, Gavaskar's reputation continues to flourish as the father figure of a thriving modern Indian cricket scene.
By chance would you have the lists for bowlers and batsmen?

Like from 1900 to 1997?

Interested to see how it matches up with mine.
 

peterhrt

U19 Captain
By chance would you have the lists for bowlers and batsmen?

Like from 1900 to 1997?

Interested to see how it matches up with mine.
Lists below. Sunday Times cricket correspondent Simon Wilde collected the views of the leading players, and a few critics, to produce lists of the best batsman and bowler in the world over time. Where there was any uncertainty the benefit of the doubt went to the incumbent. Temporary losses of form or missed tours did not matter too much if the incumbent was still regarded as the best by the majority of his peers.

Number One Batsmen

1768-87: John Small
1787-1805: William Beldham
1805-25: Lord Frederick Beauclerk
1825-33: William Ward
1834-49: Fuller Pilch
1849-60: George Parr
1860-66: Robert Carpenter
1866-86: Grace
1886-94: Shrewsbury
1895-96: Grace (again)
1896-1902: Ranjitsinhji
1902-12: Trumper
1912-28: Hobbs
1928-30: Hammond
1930-49: Bradman
1949-55: Hutton
1955-60: May
1960-70: Sobers
1970-76: Barry Richards
1976-90: Viv Richards
1990-94: Gooch
1994-95: Lara
1995-97: Steve Waugh

Number One Bowlers

1770-83: Lumpy Stevens
1783-98: David Harris
1799-1826: Interregnum. No obvious candidate.
1827-49: William Lillywhite
1850-53: William Clarke
1853-57: John Wisden
1858-66: John Jackson
1867-71: George Freeman
1872-78: Alfred Shaw
1878-87: Spofforth
1887-93: CTB Turner
1893-98: Tom Richardson
1898-1901: Lockwood
1901-19: Barnes
1919-24: Jack Gregory
1924-30: Tate
1930-32: Grimmett
1932-46: O'Reilly
1946-50: Lindwall
1950-54: Bedser
1954-56: Lindwall (again)
1956-59: Laker
1959-64: Trueman
1965-68: Lance Gibbs
1968-72: Snow
1972-83: Lillee
1983-90: Marshall
1990-93: Ambrose
1993-97: Warne
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Don't think anyone has ever called Sunny crap. He's a legitimate top 10 batsman of all time.

So if anyone think s that my opinion it's dead wrong.

My top two teams for my AT XI are all super elite (and a couple from the 3rd).

There are two sections in my AT XI which are relatively contentious, Barry over Sunny and Wasim over Imran.

Barry over Sunny is 3 fold.

1. I believe Barry was better vs the faster stuff in seaming / swinging and yes, faster conditions.

2. The same way some think it's beneficial or even essential to have someone who can provide reverse swing in an attack, I think it's extremely beneficial to have someone who can score at a higher rate at the the top of the innings and set that tone. He's very likely the only post war opener who's capable of that.

3. From everything I've read he was a better slip than Sunny. It's not a primary consideration, but factored into everything else it's a plus and a point of emphasis for me.

Wasim over Imran.

1. Wasim was very arguably the greatest old ball bowler of all time.

2. Wasim was capable of swinging the ball both ways, conventionally and via reverse.

3. Left handedness brings a different dimension, and variety

Also don't think there was much to separate them as bowlers overall considering his late career health struggles and his overall lack of catching support during his career.

I would say though than Imran is closer to selection than Sunny, as his batting can be of higher value depending on the keeper chosen, and even with Gilchrist it's a toss up. Just prefer Wasim's intangibles.

There's no conspiracy or downplaying of anyone else.

Sunny is ****ing elite, period. But so was Barry and he was seen to be the better player while they both played in the 70's. That's it.
Wasim definitely balances that attack really well. I'd think about picking him ahead of Imran as well if their batting was equivalent, although Sobers' offerings as the fifth bowler do negate the point of difference Wasim's left arm brings.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Wasim definitely balances that attack really well. I'd think about picking him ahead of Imran as well if their batting was equivalent, although Sobers' offerings as the fifth bowler do negate the point of difference Wasim's left arm brings.
With that batting lineup and Gilchrist at 7, do we need to prioritize the batting at no. 8 though, that's my question.
Wasim could move it both ways, and even just watching SA slog away with the old ball with it not swinging, a guy like Wasim in those situations is invaluable.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
With that batting lineup and Gilchrist at 7, do we need to prioritize the batting at no. 8 though, that's my question.
Wasim could move it both ways, and even just watching SA slog away with the old ball with it not swinging, a guy like Wasim in those situations is invaluable.
Gilchrist definitely isn't going to be specialist batsman quality at this standard, so yeah if I can get extra batting at 8 I'm gonna take it. I think Imran is the second greatest Test cricketer ever so I'm just not gonna pass on that. I can see the argument for how well Wasim balances out the attack though.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Gilchrist definitely isn't going to be specialist batsman quality at this standard, so yeah if I can get extra batting at 8 I'm gonna take it. I think Imran is the second greatest Test cricketer ever so I'm just not gonna pass on that. I can see the argument for how well Wasim balances out the attack though.
Agree on the Gilchrist bit, but that would apply even more to Imran though.

But that aside, this is my eternal argument. If you rate Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Steyn or even Ambrose ahead of him as a pacer, where is the line where batting covers or makes up for an "inferior" bowler. That's also considering the lineup ahead of them and that Maco and Warne aren't mugs with the bat either.
 
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Coronis

International Coach
Agree on the Gilchrist bit, but that would apply even more to Imran though.

But that aside, this is my eternal argument though. If you rate Marshall, McGrath, Hadlee, Steyn or even Ambrose ahead of him as a pacer, where is the line where batting covers or makes up for an "inferior" bowler. That's also considering the lineup ahead of them and that Maco and Warne aren't mugs with the bat either.
Well for me, Imran’s probably the next fast bowler on the sheet.
 

kyear2

International Coach
Lists below. Sunday Times cricket correspondent Simon Wilde collected the views of the leading players, and a few critics, to produce lists of the best batsman and bowler in the world over time. Where there was any uncertainty the benefit of the doubt went to the incumbent. Temporary losses of form or missed tours did not matter too much if the incumbent was still regarded as the best by the majority of his peers.

Number One Batsmen

1768-87: John Small
1787-1805: William Beldham
1805-25: Lord Frederick Beauclerk
1825-33: William Ward
1834-49: Fuller Pilch
1849-60: George Parr
1860-66: Robert Carpenter
1866-86: Grace
1886-94: Shrewsbury
1895-96: Grace (again)
1896-1902: Ranjitsinhji
1902-12: Trumper
1912-28: Hobbs
1928-30: Hammond
1930-49: Bradman
1949-55: Hutton
1955-60: May
1960-70: Sobers
1970-76: Barry Richards
1976-90: Viv Richards
1990-94: Gooch
1994-95: Lara
1995-97: Steve Waugh

Number One Bowlers

1770-83: Lumpy Stevens
1783-98: David Harris
1799-1826: Interregnum. No obvious candidate.
1827-49: William Lillywhite
1850-53: William Clarke
1853-57: John Wisden
1858-66: John Jackson
1867-71: George Freeman
1872-78: Alfred Shaw
1878-87: Spofforth
1887-93: CTB Turner
1893-98: Tom Richardson
1898-1901: Lockwood
1901-19: Barnes
1919-24: Jack Gregory
1924-30: Tate
1930-32: Grimmett
1932-46: O'Reilly
1946-50: Lindwall
1950-54: Bedser
1954-56: Lindwall (again)
1956-59: Laker
1959-64: Trueman
1965-68: Lance Gibbs
1968-72: Snow
1972-83: Lillee
1983-90: Marshall
1990-93: Ambrose
1993-97: Warne
Interested how most of you guys would finish these lists.

@peterhrt , @subshakerz , @Prince EWS , @capt_Luffy etc etc
 

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