CricketGuru
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Shoaib Akhtar found guilty of ball tampering, do u think a bowler like Shoaib needs to tamper with ball at his pace and an opposition such a Zimbabwe.
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Ball Tampering
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CricketGuru
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Yeah but i think shoaib has enough pace that he can swing a ball thats shining from one side and a bit rough on the other but anyways a bowler like shoaib who is always under attack for one thing or another sould be a bit more careful.
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
Just in retrospect, do you know that some time back the general thought was that a bowler with genuine pace couldn't swing the ball. Pace was supposed to be a bane for the ball to swing. Perhaps a not so complete knowledge of how actually the ball swings. But Imran and other bowlers of that era changed all that.
Prodigious swing though can be achieved only by constant wear and tear, which happens through the course of the match, but if you accelerate that process then its not fair. He has been reprimanded hope that keeps him away from getting naughty again.
Prodigious swing though can be achieved only by constant wear and tear, which happens through the course of the match, but if you accelerate that process then its not fair. He has been reprimanded hope that keeps him away from getting naughty again.
CricketGuru
School Boy/Girl Captain
Waqar was once asked about the ball tampering issue after he was caught doing it and he said
" They just catch and punish us (the Pakistanis) because we can really swing the ball like no one else can, the other teams do it too but they still cant swing the ball like we can" 8D
" They just catch and punish us (the Pakistanis) because we can really swing the ball like no one else can, the other teams do it too but they still cant swing the ball like we can" 8D
wasims_fan
School Boy/Girl Cricketer
yeah that is the biggest difference between the Pakistani bowlers and the others.They are the masters of swing,especially reverse swing.8D
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Errr, did you ever think that's WHY he gets swing at all?
I personally don't have a problem with 'ball tampering'. In fact, this was quite a large debate on here a few months ago. I figure, whatever someone can do to help them ply their trade is fair game, provided they only use what they've got and not bottle-caps etc.
And as I pointed out at the time, if they try tampering with the ball and the bugger it up so it doesn't swing at all, then they have to live with that too. It works both ways, in my book.
lord_of_darkness
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Why does a person like Shoaib Akhtar who is one of the fastest bowlers ? need to tamper a ball , and when that isint allowed in world cricket , why do it when you know that there are 100s of cameras capturing that exact moment ? why be in trouble ?
Why does a person like Shoaib Akhtar who is one of the fastest bowlers ? need to tamper a ball , and when that isint allowed in world cricket , why do it when you know that there are 100s of cameras capturing that exact moment ? why be in trouble ?
Gotchya
State Vice-Captain
through tampering the ball ? On the field the whole Pakistani team performs a ritual. No matter to whom the ball goes, its an obligation to shine one side of the ball. Guess thats why he gets swing. The whole team benefits from that. Maybe they even have some special traits and tacts (which are out of the definition of tampering!) Waqar gets a natural outswing. Wasim has been swinging it both ways as well. I see no other reason why Shoaib gets the swing..............
But as I said earlier, to get prodigous swing that 'tampering' does come in. Also Imran when was defending himself against Botham and Lamb stated that if what we do is ball tampering then the English have been doing it for a century.
I totally agree, barring external consraints, the fielding side should be allowed to 'use' whatever they can.
[Edited on 14/11/2002 by Gotchya]
lord_of_darkness
Cricket Web XI Moderator
hahah
good call marc :P!CricketGuru
School Boy/Girl Captain
Not to mention that wasim also said that ' I treat the ball like a beautiful lady'.Originally posted by marc71178
His private life is his own business!
Now its all making sense. 8D
I did not saw the match but am wondering as to how the umpires came to the conclusion that it was Akhter who tampered with the ball and not Waqar or the other pacers? Was Akhter caught tampering on TV footage??
Waqar has been involved in tampering in the past, such a captain will encourage his bowlers to break the rules.
Though Zimb would have lot the match anyway,there wasn't any need to do such a dumb thing . I guess after the thrashing Pak had at the hands of Aus, they were really desperate for a win!
Waqar has been involved in tampering in the past, such a captain will encourage his bowlers to break the rules.
Though Zimb would have lot the match anyway,there wasn't any need to do such a dumb thing . I guess after the thrashing Pak had at the hands of Aus, they were really desperate for a win!
So you think Akhter was tampering the ball right in front of the umpires ?
, the umpires only saw the ball that had already been tampered ( i'm not questioning that) but surely they weren't watching Akhter altering the shape of the ball![Edited on 16/11/2002 by yorker]