Australian Off Season 2017

[GirtBySea]

As written in The Mercury today, Kingston and rookie listed Ryan Lees are believed to be two names who will be axed from Tasmania's list. The Mercury also reports they are after two players from interstate. If I hear anymore rumours I'll keep you all in the loop.

 

[GirtBySea]

To brockley, Ben Rohrer has indeed been recruited by the Tigers. Not surprisingly it is not as a player. It's an off field role as their talent scout. He would have been a depth player only if he was recruited for those purposes. I expect there will be at least 2 vacancies from their rookie list next year too.

 

[brockley]

So he's retired then?

 

[Red]

I don't know what CA mean by "grassroots". They're certainly not injecting money into clubs, plenty of whom have to work ****ing hard just to stay afloat.

Players at club level pay fees and memberships. Kids doing Milo or HaveAGo or whatever that's called now pay for it. And local councils generally maintain the ovals etc.

So as for "grassroots", what are they even talking about?

 

[quincywagstaff]

‘Grassroots’ seems a trendy buzzword used by Oz sporting associations to justify their ever-inflated admin and budgets.

 

[GirtBySea]

So he's retired then?

Yeah, but he wouldn't have gotten a game ahead of Doolan, Bailey, McDermott and Webster anyway.

 

[GirtBySea]

Good lord.
It's been a week or so since I read Buchanan's recommendations, but

**** off to a couple of them like the potential for no Ashes Tests and extending the BBL franchises to one-day cricket too.

 

[vic_orthdox]

I don't know what CA mean by "grassroots". They're certainly not injecting money into clubs, plenty of whom have to work ****ing hard just to stay afloat.

Players at club level pay fees and memberships. Kids doing Milo or HaveAGo or whatever that's called now pay for it. And local councils generally maintain the ovals etc.

So as for "grassroots", what are they even talking about?

I think what you'll see will be more paid help in local regions.

For example, Cricket Victoria employs a "Regional Cricket Manager", sixteen across the state. I think this will be further supported by CA, and offer a more proactive role - seeking out clubs - rather than waiting for clubs to come to them to ask for help, which RCMs have to do at the moment because their workload (during cricket season especially) is too large, and measurement of their role usually revolves simply around participation.

 

[Red]

I think what you'll see will be more paid help in local regions.

For example, Cricket Victoria employs a "Regional Cricket Manager", sixteen across the state. I think this will be further supported by CA, and offer a more proactive role - seeking out clubs - rather than waiting for clubs to come to them to ask for help, which RCMs have to do at the moment because their workload (during cricket season especially) is too large, and measurement of their role usually revolves simply around participation.

The problem is that the participation that these RCM are facilitating isn't really developing or growing the game (from the samples I've seen). They are basically putting on Kanga Cricket comps for local primary schools where a bunch of schools in close proximity compete on one day against one another.

 

[brockley]

CT can confirm that players Dom Michael, Cameron Wheatley and Ryan
Lees won’t be offered contracts for the 17-18 season.

 

[Prince EWS]

A little bit surprised about Michael. I think it's fair to say he shouldn't be in the Shield team again, but he's got his 50 over game down pat so you'd think Tasmania would've kept him around just for that. He's literally averaging 50 after 25 games; I don't think they're in a position to toss that away unless they're just not worried about the 50 over competition whatsoever.

 

[NUFAN]

A lot could happen by the time Tasmania next play an OD match but perhaps George Bailey and James Faulkner missing out on CA contracts and being available has ruined Michael's chances. Or maybe it was his woeful Big Bash record and bad Shield record that make his List A record appear better than he actually is.

A little from column a, a little from column b.

 

[GirtBySea]

The Mercury reports that Michael left Tasmania to return to Queensland for family and personal reasons, so it's debatable that he was or would have been outright axed. If that wasn't the case my gut feeling told me he would have been given another year.
Not surprised on the other two axings tbt.

 

[brockley]

No Cookies | Herald Sun
Wes Agar returns to the Vics.

 

[NUFAN]

I still can't get over Dom's T20 record. Surely there was a single somewhere!

 

[vic_orthdox]

The problem is that the participation that these RCM are facilitating isn't really developing or growing the game (from the samples I've seen). They are basically putting on Kanga Cricket comps for local primary schools where a bunch of schools in close proximity compete on one day against one another.

Doesn't that illustrate the point? RCMs get into the schools, provide an introduction to help encourage kids to take up Milo In2Cricket, which the clubs administrate.

The clubs need some help, their point of contact is the RCM - or the competition, who if they need further assistance go to the RCM.

 

[Red]

Doesn't that illustrate the point? RCMs get into the schools, provide an introduction to help encourage kids to take up Milo In2Cricket, which the clubs administrate.

The clubs need some help, their point of contact is the RCM - or the competition, who if they need further assistance go to the RCM.

I think that is the point but I think you'll find it's not really translating into juniors playing cricket in local comps. I'd be surprised if it was.

I saw the format run a few times a few years ago and basically schools would be invited to participate to one day a year, and the schools'd pick their best cricketers (usually kids already playing U12s locally) to try and win the comp.

It'd be far better for the RCMs to actually establish a proper U12s comp between local schools that runs for say 8 weeks a year. Call it "Davey Warner's Kid's Big Bash" or some ****. Get rid of under 12s at club level and then try to attract kids to clubs once the comp is done.

Another thing that'd be good is if clubs started encouraging junior kit again. Have stuff for kids to use. Seems to have stopped. Forking out a few hundred bucks for kit probably stops a lot of families from participating.

 

[brockley]

2017-18 Futures League Winter Training Squad announced - Victorian Bushrangers
Victoria Winter Futures squad announced/

Tom Rogers from ACT in the squad.

 

[vic_orthdox]

2017-18 Futures League Winter Training Squad announced - Victorian Bushrangers
Victoria Winter Futures squad announced/

Tom Rogers from ACT in the squad.

Nah, it's 17 year old Tom Rogers from Gisborne.

 

[brockley]

Ah damn.