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Australian Contracts

iamdavid

International Debutant
Hmm....it'll be interesting
I beleive the way they actually pick them is select their 25 best ODI players & award them points (25 points for number 1 , 1 point for number 25) & vice versa for tests.
Then they pick the 25 best players for contracts (giving a bit of slack to get a balance between keepers/batsman/bowlers/allrounders).
I just read that in an article somewhere.
Now assuming thats what they do then I think it'll look something like this-(note this is what I think they'll do...not what Id do)

ODI allocation-
1.R.T.Ponting (25 points)
2.A.C.Gilchrist(24 points)
3.G.D.McGrath(23 points)
4.M.L.Hayden(22 points)
5.J.N.Gillespie(21 points)
6.B.Lee(20 points)
7.M.G.Bevan(19 points)
8.D.S.Lehmann(18 points)
9.A.Symonds(17 points)
10.D.R.Martyn(16 points)
11.M.J.Clarke(15 points)
12.G.B.Hogg(14 points)
13.N.W.Bracken(13 points)
14.I.J.Harvey(12 points)
15.B.A.Williams(11 points)
16.S.M.Katich(10 points)
17.M.S.Kasprowics(9 points)
18.B.J.Haddin(8 points)
19.A.J.Bichel(7 points)
20.N.M.Hauritz(6 points)
21.M.E.K.Hussey(5 points)
22.S.R.Watson(4 points)
23.J.P.Maher(3 points)
24.D.G.Wright(2 points)
25.B.J.Hodge(1 point)
Just missing out-
North , Cleary , Dave Hussey & Tait


Test allocation-
1.R.T.Ponting(25 points)
2.M.L.Hayden(24 points)
3.G.D.McGrath(23 points)
4.A.C.Gilchrist(22 points)
5.J.N.Gillespie(21 points)
6.J.L.Langer(20 points)
7.S.K.Warne(19 points)
8.D.S.Lehmann(18 points)
9.D.R.Martyn(17 points)
10.S.M.Katich(16 points)
11.B.Lee(15 points)
12.S.C.G.MacGill(14 points)
13.M.Kasprowics(13 points)
14.M.L.Love(12 points)
15.B.A.Williams(11 points)
16.A.Symonds(10 points)
17.A.J.Bichel(9 points)
18.M.J.Clarke(8 points)
19.M.E.K.Hussey(7 points)
20.W.Seccombe(6 points)
21.M.J.North(5 points)
22.N.W.Bracken(4 points)
23.S.Tait(3 points)
24.B.Hodge(2 points)
25.S.R.Watson(1 point)

Just missing out -
Cleary , Hogg , Hussey jnr , Elliott


So that leave it as -
1.Ponting(50)
2.Hayden(46)
3.McGrath(46)
4.Gilchrist(46)
5.Gillespie(42)
6.Lehmann(36)
7.Lee(35)
8.Martyn(33)
9.Symonds(27)
10.Katich(26)
11.Clarke(23)
12.Kasprowics(22)
13.Williams(22)
14.Langer(20)
15.Bevan(19)
16.Warne(19)
17.Bracken(17)
18.Bichel(16)
19.MacGill(14)
20.Hogg(14)
21.Harvey(12)
22.Hussey(12)
23.Love(12)
24.Haddin(8)
25.Hauriz(6)

Seccombe(6)
Watson(5)
North(5)
Hodge(3)
Tait(3)
Wright(2)

I think that'd be a pretty fair contract list in the end.
 

Mister Wright

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
furious_ged said:
Read what I said earlier.
It's their list and they are entitled to their opinion, who are you to have a go at them for who's on their list? You've stated your opinion, leave it at that.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
I think Love, Bichel and Maher will miss out persoanly.

Bichel will be replaced by kaspa and Maher by Hussey or North.

Hodge will have a big chance as well.

Tait wont be added to the squad just yet IMO but he is not far away.

Secombe will probably get in over Haddin but it's a close call given Gilly is only really going to miss ODI's and Haddin is better for ODI's.
 
Mister Wright said:
It's their list and they are entitled to their opinion, who are you to have a go at them for who's on their list? You've stated your opinion, leave it at that.
I'm not flogging my opinion on people. I simply said that it hasn't happened in the past and why should it happen now? Sure a backup keeper will be used at some point but they've not been contracted for it.
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
I know you were just stateing your opinion, but do you have to be so heavy handed about it?

Tait and Rofe are far too inconsistant. (especially Tait). Tait is too young and too wayward for my liking. There is much more chance of Haddin or Seccombe playing than a bowler that is basically 8 or 9th in line. Threrefore, I think the keeper should be given the contract.

I dont care what you you wrote earlier! Just ebcuase you say it doesnt mean I believe in it!

And for soem reason I left out Clarke. So Ive decided to drop either Love or Maher from that list, but I cant decide which one so:

OUT OF LIST:

Maher
Love

IN LIST:

Maher / Love
Clarke
 
Prince EWS said:
I know you were just stateing your opinion, but do you have to be so heavy handed about it?
Sorry, wasn't meant to be heavy-handed when I was thinking about it.

No hard feelings, eh? :)

I think that this being the case, players who often don't play, they might do well to think about cutting down the number of contracts.
 

Mr. P

International Vice-Captain
To be honest I think that one of Bichel and Bracken has to stay, and IMO if Bichel goes, Bracken goes.

Really, I find it far more likely for Bichel to play then Bracken.
 
Tait's not doing himself any harm. 4/52 off 18 against WA, who's batting lineup is nothing short of brilliant.

Meuleman, Hussey, Rogers, Goodwin.

Yeah, I'd take them. :D
 
taits in for mine and Watsons out. Watson doesnt deserve one cause hes a bit on the inconsistent/crap player side. Tait is an extremely good player who has far more talent than Watson. If i remember correctly Tait outscored Watson in an Australia a match against Zimbabwe when the pressure was on. Tait has far more chance of being an allrounder than Watson
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Is that four years up allready for Murray Goodwin?

Ide really hate to see him play for Australia, especially if he only gets the odd game. Australia dont need him. There are 15 other Goodwins for them to pick from, but Zimbabwe need him BADLY. They would be a very good ODI side with him.

It would be a cricketing tragedy to see him play for Australia.

Im not saying he should be forced to move back to Zim, or even reccomend it, but the mess in Zim is ruining many things, including the cricket team.
 

SquidAU

First Class Debutant
Goodwin will never get a contract for Australia unless the whole team died in a tragic accident. Even then he might not get one.

Tait is certainly a chance, but I would rather see Cleary get a contract. Tait seems a little too expensive for my liking and Cleary can bat a bit.
 
pontingrulz said:
taits in for mine and Watsons out. Watson doesnt deserve one cause hes a bit on the inconsistent/crap player side. Tait is an extremely good player who has far more talent than Watson. If i remember correctly Tait outscored Watson in an Australia a match against Zimbabwe when the pressure was on. Tait has far more chance of being an allrounder than Watson
If I remember correctly Watson scored 983 runs @ 54.61 with 4 hundreds and 3 fifties in the Pura Cup.

Oh yeah, you're right, he's crap.
 

Rik

Cricketer Of The Year
furious_ged said:
If I remember correctly Watson scored 983 runs @ 54.61 with 4 hundreds and 3 fifties in the Pura Cup.

Oh yeah, you're right, he's crap.
And in International Cricket? ;)
 

Prince EWS

Global Moderator
Watson should never have played ODIs. Not yet anyway. He is not a one day player, but I definately do think he has a future in test cricket.

And his intetrnational record isnt THAT bad. He averges 36 with the bat and 35 with the ball. His batting average is higher than his bowling average.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
pontingrulz said:
taits in for mine and Watsons out. Watson doesnt deserve one cause hes a bit on the inconsistent/crap player side. Tait is an extremely good player who has far more talent than Watson. If i remember correctly Tait outscored Watson in an Australia a match against Zimbabwe when the pressure was on. Tait has far more chance of being an allrounder than Watson
ohh come on !!

this is blatent hatred of a player for no good reason.

Not only does Watson have a FC bowling avrage as good as Tait's but his FC batting avrage is a very respectable 45.

And he is improving his batting in One Day domestic game's very rapidly as well. He started the Domestic One Day season off crap with the bat but the last half of the season he has been very consistant and infact 375 runs at 38 is a very respectable avrage overall.

And he is only going to get better and better IMO. I have never met anyone who works harder on there game than Watson and this is also an opinion shared by many of the senior Australian players.
 

Eclipse

International Debutant
Prince EWS said:
Watson should never have played ODIs. Not yet anyway. He is not a one day player, but I definately do think he has a future in test cricket.

And his intetrnational record isnt THAT bad. He averges 36 with the bat and 35 with the ball. His batting average is higher than his bowling average.
Yep it was a case of the slectors picking a player for ODI's based on his FC performances not One day performances.

I think they were just desprate for that allrounder.

But having said that he is a much better One day batsman than he was back then and his OD performances this year have been very good.

His bowling is going to be much better for One Day game's now as well with his new action. It's not half as skidy and allows him to swing the ball nicely.
 
Eclipse said:
Yep it was a case of the slectors picking a player for ODI's based on his FC performances not One day performances.

I think they were just desprate for that allrounder.

But having said that he is a much better One day batsman than he was back then and his OD performances this year have been very good.

His bowling is going to be much better for One Day game's now as well with his new action. It's not half as skidy and allows him to swing the ball nicely.
That's right. His game is much better now. He's saved Tassie on countless occasions this summer, but we're yet to see the results of that. Certainly they are deserving of a chance.
 

chris.hinton

International Captain
How come that the Aussies give 30 players Central contracts and people dont moan yet we English give 12 and yet people say it not the right thing

Or are England doing it wrong?
 

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