Aus XI india tour?

[Burgey]

I still don’t think Agar should be written off for india. If the decks turn there he’ll get enough out of them to be serviceable imho

 

[TimAngas]

I still don’t think Agar should be written off for india. If the decks turn there he’ll get enough out of them to be serviceable imho

I agree. I think there is a history of innocuous looking overseas left arm orthodox doing well on certain pitches in India. It will turn enough, and then the increased speed and flatter trajectory does batsmen for pace. Swepson for roads and Agar for turners IMO.

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Needs to be a bit more accurate than what he displayed in this Test just gone for that to work

I would be stunned if he isn't in the touring squad though

 

[honestbharani]

I think there is now at least 2 threads on this same topic. Maybe time to open the subforum like you guys did in 2020?

 

[Spark]

Needs to be a bit more accurate than what he displayed in this Test just gone for that to work

I would be stunned if he isn't in the touring squad though

Cummins just confirmed that he would be

 

[GoodAreasShane]

Cummins just confirmed that he would be

No surprises there.

 

[Arun singh]

1. assume pitches are turners(india will prepare the same)
2. Green will miss india tour(feb) but be available for IPL in late March.
3. Starc will miss india tour. Both have had finger surgery and wont recover by Feb.

Khawaja
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Head
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Lyon
Swepson
Hazlewood/Murphy

Selectors will include Swepson as he is a leg spinner, whereas Murphy is more a Lyon clone.

India will be throwing 3 spinners at us- Ashwin, Axar, Jadeja , with pacers Yadav, Siraj and Bumrah in the mix depending on Bumrah's injury progress.

india will win 3-1

 

[Socerer 01]

india will win 3-1

bold prediction

 

[Tom Flint]

1. assume pitches are turners(india will prepare the same)
2. Green will miss india tour(feb) but be available for IPL in late March.
3. Starc will miss india tour. Both have had finger surgery and wont recover by Feb.

Khawaja
Warner
Labushagne
Smith
Head
Carey
Agar
Cummins
Lyon
Swepson
Hazlewood/Murphy

Selectors will include Swepson as he is a leg spinner, whereas Murphy is more a Lyon clone.

India will be throwing 3 spinners at us- Ashwin, Axar, Jadeja , with pacers Yadav, Siraj and Bumrah in the mix depending on Bumrah's injury progress.

Is Murphy a spinner? If he is I can't see them going in with 4 spinners and cummins

 

[Burgey]

Realistically you can take as many blokes as you want. Murphy would be a decent back up for Lyon and I suppose Swepson would be there as the wrist spinner though I think his trajectory is wrong for Indian decks.

 

[Number 11]

I was in the camp where I thought Agar might perform alright in India and didn’t have the potential to go as disastrously wrong as picking Swepson does. But Agar’s accuracy was horrible in Sydney. A specialist finger spinner who was struggling to land them? I’ll pass

 

[GoodAreasShane]

It's a tough debate to have, Agar didn't particularly do himself many favours in this Test. Swepson hasn't looked very impressive this whole season in any format, certainly not in his best form. Murphy has looked a good talent but is still very young, and arguably a bit too similar to Lyon to fit into the same XI. Nobody else looks particularly close, maybe at a real stretch Rocchiccioli but Murphy is very much a bit ahead of him at this stage in the 2nd best offie in the country


Anyone but Zampa

 

[Burgey]

I think of all the available wrist spinners that Zampa's MO is likely to work best in India because he's quick through the air and bowls over the top,. But he just hasn't played enough FC cricket to warrant being picked for a tour where he would need to bowl long spells instead of 4 overs spread over a couple of hours.

 

[Gob]

If Green isn't fit by the first test, I'm tempted to go with six bats and four bowlers (3 fast bowlers and a spinner) and rely on Travis's part time spin

If Green is fit and the pitch demands more spin, I'd rather player Murphy even if he turns the bowl as the same way as Lyon because he is a good bowler. Also Lyon can run out of esteem some times when he bowls long spells on flatter wickets

 

[Gob]

I think of all the available wrist spinners that Zampa's MO is likely to work best in India because he's quick through the air and bowls over the top,. But he just hasn't played enough FC cricket to warrant being picked for a tour where he would need to bowl long spells instead of 4 overs spread over a couple of hours.

With more variations compared to Zampa, he might clean the tail

 

[GoodAreasShane]

I think of all the available wrist spinners that Zampa's MO is likely to work best in India because he's quick through the air and bowls over the top,. But he just hasn't played enough FC cricket to warrant being picked for a tour where he would need to bowl long spells instead of 4 overs spread over a couple of hours.

No he's an absolute joke of a red ball player, even when he did play FC cricket he was absolutely terrible at it

 

[ataraxia]

Assuming a turner and Green and Starc out, then I would pick the same XI as for the SCG test.

I read this and wondered why Ashton Turner is in the fray

 

[the big bambino]

I wouldn't pick Swepson as he's looked awful whenever I've seen him. Qld haven't played Kuhnemann and his action looks suspect anyway. Unless you want to pick someone like Zampa, Dooley or Hatzoglou out of bbl then the best option is Murphy. If you don't mind picking another off spinner then I'd put Ben Manenti against him above Rocchiccioli. Manenti can bat and that is a nice accessory for the 5th bowling option.

I don't mind playing 2 off spinners as we have that situation now whenever we turn to Travis as an option. It would just mean Manenti would get the overs instead.

I'm not sure we'll need Murphy as he is a specialist spinner and Lyon fills that spot. I'd pick Manenti and Agar for India.

Edit.

actually I’d pick Chris green

 

[TheJediBrah]

Also Lyon can run out of esteem

If anything he's too confident IMO

 

[Spikey]

I just don't see the point of picking Hazlewood in those circumstances. I'd honestly rather another batsman who bowls some spin. Otherwise we end up in the situation that happened in Rawalpindi where Hazlewood barely bowls after the initial new ball burst.

If there's an actual reason you want the third (fourth!) seamer when we already have Green, like there's some particular skill or variety then okay sure but otherwise "guy who bowls reasonable accurate left arm tweakers and can hang around for runs" is as good as we're going to get. Which I know ends up being the argument for Ashton Agar, but oh well.

wow heard of chris green much?