Associate Draft

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Neil Carter and Andreas van Troost could've also qualified. Unfortunate that Joyce, Hamilton, Brown and Di Venuto miss out.

Think Flower also represented Zimbabwe pre-Tests.

Yeah, I also considered Flower but he had relatively limited exposure pre-Tests and I thought it'd be gaming the system somewhat.

van Troost could easily have been taken, given Levebvre got taken quite early in the piece. Very surprised he didn't get taken tbh.

With respect to Trevor Penney, I've watched a lot of him. And even more of Brian Hardie. I'd say Hardie was the better of the two on what I saw, but Penney was the best fielder in county cricket in his heyday. He definitely should have found a home somewhere in this. Much harder to compare Penney with Snyman. I do think it would be hard to argue based on his much more extensive career and wealth of experience that Penney wasn't a better player than Snyman is, but there isn't enough information to readily compare the two. Snyman couldn't really have done much more given the level he can play at to prove he's got the goods.

Anyway, once everyone has posted their line-ups, I'll stick up a voting thread to see if we can bag a "winner". It's a very open field - anyone's game to take out.

 

[Dan]

Surprised Paras Khadka didn't get selected on the strength of his World T20, tbh.


There's probably a stack that I'm overlooking, but how about a Traitor's XI?
- Michael di Venuto
- Ed Joyce
- Graeme Hick
- Mike Denness *
- Eoin Morgan
- Gavin Hamilton
- Dougie Brown
- Gregor MacGregor +
- Ian Peebles
- Dirk Nannes
- Boyd Rankin

(12th: Geriant Jones)

 

[morgieb]

Surprised Paras Khadka didn't get selected on the strength of his World T20, tbh.


There's probably a stack that I'm overlooking, but how about a Traitor's XI?
- Michael di Venuto
- Ed Joyce
- Graeme Hick
- Mike Denness *
- Eoin Morgan
- Gavin Hamilton
- Dougie Brown
- Gregor MacGregor +
- Ian Peebles
- Dirk Nannes
- Boyd Rankin

(12th: Geriant Jones)

Peter Such?

Jardine was of Scottish origin too.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Peter Such?

Jardine was of Scottish origin too.

The difference being Mike Denness, Gavin Hamilton and Dougie Brown played for Scotland, Peter Such never played for Scotland. I'm not even sure he's Scottish.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Brockley's xl

T Cooper
S Myburgh
W Baressi
M Swart
P Gillespie C)
T Odoya VC)
j mooney
M Bukhari
P Seelar
A Mcbrine
P Ongondo

Camo XI

P Cantrell 6
J Davison 5
M Machan 7
A Pycroft
I Talebulamainavaleniveivakabulaimainakulalakebalau
G Wilson
J Scuderi 4
R Lefebvre 1
D Leverock 3
*+J Smits
Dawlat Zadran 2

Morgieb XI

1. William Porterfield* (Ireland)
2. Kyle Coetzer (Scotland)
3. Derrick de Saram (Ceylon)
4. Brian Davison (Rhodesia)
5. Andy Waller (Zimbabwe)
6. Kevin Curran (3) (Zimbabwe)
7. Neil Maxwell (4) (Fiji)
8. Ashish Bagai (+) (Canada)
9. George Dockrell (5) (Ireland)
10. Paul-Jan Bakker (2) (Netherlands)
11. Ole Mortensen (1) (Denmark)

BFP XI

1. Arshad Ali
2. Saqib Ali
3. David Hemp
4. Steve Tikolo (*)
5. Niall O'Brien (+)
6. Andrew White (6)
7. Kevin O'Brien (4)
8. Christi Viljoen (3)
9. Tim Murtagh (2)
10. Hiren Varaiya (5)
11. Hamid Hassan (1)

Prince EWS

1. Kevin Arnott
2. Mohammad Shahzad
3. Khurram Khan
4. Dave Houghton
5. Maurice Odumbe
6. Neil McCallum
7. Aminul Islam
8. Rahmat Shah
9. Trent Johnston
10. Eddo Brandes
11. Clem Gibson

Heef's XI

					Bat		Bowl			Nationality
1. James Aitchison 			2,786 @ 32.77				Scotland
2. Ravindu Shah				1,623 @ 49.18	(RMF) 5 @ 33.60		Kenya
3. Brian Hardie				18,103 @ 34.22	(RM) 3 @ 84.66		Scotland
4. Craig Williams (7)			4,970 @ 39.76	(RM) 89 @ 36.49		Namibia
5. Gerrie Snyman (6)			4,100 @ 39.04	(RFM) 68 @ 38.27	Namibia
6. Ryan ten Doeschate (5)		6,426 @ 46.90	(RMF) 182 @ 33.90	Netherlands
7. Stuart Robertson (+)			4,343 @ 33.15	(112 dismissals)	Rhodesia
8. Mohammad Nabi (4)			1,048 @ 26.87	(ROS) 61 @ 24.60	Afghanistan
9. Duncan Fletcher (1)			4,095 @ 23.67	(RFM) 215 @ 28.03	Rhodesia/Zimbabwe
10. Jimmy Allan (3)			4,988 @ 22.36	(SLA) 435 @ 25.69	Scotland
11. Peter Rawson (2)			1,976 @ 20.80	(RFM) 257 @ 23.90	Zimbabwe

Fred's Fertangs

1.Jeremy Bray
2.John Kerr
3.Ivan Anderson
4.Clive Inman
5.+Tom Brierley
6.*Gamini Goonesena
7.Bart King
8.Alec O'Riordan
9.Dermott Monteith
10.Soren Henriksen
11.Tommy Kelaart

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

To me, it generally looks like batsmen are in shorter supply than decent bowlers.

Anyway, if people could repost their line-ups with full names (i.e first name last name), bowling order and country, that'd be very much appreciated.

Have a look at how Morgie has done his line up. That's ideal really.

 

[BackFootPunch]

1. Arshad Ali (U.A.E.)
2. Saqib Ali (U.A.E.)
3. David Hemp (Bermuda)
4. Steve Tikolo* (Kenya)
5. Niall O'Brien (+) (Ireland)
6. Andrew White (6) (Ireland)
7. Kevin O'Brien (4) (Ireland)
8. Christi Viljoen (3) (Namibia)
9. Tim Murtagh (2) (Ireland)
10. Hiren Varaiya (5) (Kenya)
11. Hamid Hassan (1) (Afghanistan)

 

[Migara]

W. Porterfield (IRE)
J. Davidson (CAN)
S. Tikolo (KEN)
M. Sathasivam (SL)
R. ten Doschate (HOL)
N. O' Brien (IRE)
K. Obrien (IRE)
M. Nabi (AFG)
H. Hassan (AFG)
B. Rankin (IRE)
D. Zardan (AFG)

There are few Sri Lankans in pre -test era would make strong claims. FC de Saram, TB Kehelgamuwa, Somachandra de Silva and Dayananda "Banduwood" Sahabandu make strong claims. Sahabandu probably is the best long format spinner to come out of a minnow nation. Somachandra de Silva was better than many test class spinners in world in early 70s to early 80s.

 

[Migara]

The reason I want them left out is that if at the end the draft goes to a poll, I believe that people will judge players like Joyce and their ilk on the very fact they have played Test cricket in recent memory. I don't think this'll be such a problem for guys from the beginnings of Zimbabwe or Sri Lanka and Bangladesh didn't have players of that quality anyway.

Not really. We had test class players long before we got test status. Mahadevan Sathasivam, FC de Saram, Dayananda Sahabandu and Somachandra de Silva are examples. The last went on to play half a dozen of test matches.

 

[HeathDavisSpeed]

Not really. We had test class players long before we got test status. Mahadevan Sathasivam, FC de Saram, Dayananda Sahabandu and Somachandra de Silva are examples. The last went on to play half a dozen of test matches.

As I found out as the draft progressed, as I recall. I realised that I knew quite a bit about Associate countries from 1990 onwards, but learned a lot about cricket outside the Test playing countries of the 70s.