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Ashwin v Lyon

Senile Sentry

Senile Sentry

International Debutant
I think over last 3 years or so, Ashwin has massively pulled ahead of Lyon. Once he got an excellent pace bowling unit around him and took a lot of pressure off him overseas.
 
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sumantra

U19 Cricketer
Lyon is a very steady bowler, but Ashwin clearly ahead in this one...the real question is, if one makes a best Indian team (last 40 years or so) and can include only one spinner, who will that be? Ashwin or Kumble?
 
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sumantra

U19 Cricketer
Pratters said:
Kumble was so dire abroad for a number of years that I don't want him there.
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Fair enough...but at least Kumble was learning, if you see his career from beginning to that Headingly test in 2001, and from that test till the end, you will find remarkable improvement in s/r and avg...he was getting better (unlike someone, say, Javagal Srinath) and that is good enough for me. Though yeah, I will probably also be having Ashwin in my side, as of now...
 
honestbharani

honestbharani

Whatever it takes!!!
I think Kumble and Ashwin are having very similar career trajectories. Perhaps the learning happened a little faster for Ashwin but you also have to remember 90s India hardly toured SENA, so in terms of number of tours or matches it took to get good in SENA, I would put them equal.
 
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sumantra

U19 Cricketer
Kumble did get fair amount of opportunity to be honest...his stats overseas from 1990 to 2001 looked dismal really...
 
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_00_deathscar

International Regular
Ashwin could get to 600 but he'll probably do it at an excellent average.

Kumble didn't have the backing of a really good pace attack to be fair to him - but at the same time, Ashwin was also clearly better (even at home, without the pace attack).
 
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sumantra

U19 Cricketer
_00_deathscar said:
Ashwin could get to 600 but he'll probably do it at an excellent average.

Kumble didn't have the backing of a really good pace attack to be fair to him - but at the same time, Ashwin was also clearly better (even at home, without the pace attack).
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Ashwin managed all those wickets in a better bowling line up overall than Kumble...
 
Burgey

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TheJediBrah said:
Ashwin easily, but lol @ 800 wkts. He'd have to play until he's 45. No one's getting 800 unless they can emulate Murali, ie. lots of games in friendly conditions, team's other bowlers ****, lots of games against minnows. Actually sounds a bit like Jimmy Anderson
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A bent take
 
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Pup Clarke

Cricketer Of The Year
I don't think Ashwin will get to 500 tbh. Excellent bowler but can only see him realistically playing tests for another couple of years - maybe three if he hits a serious purple patch. Sadly don't think his body will hold up
 
Red

Red

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Lyon is very durable and has an economical action. He’s only 33. Considering we have elite quicks, Lyon plays his role well

If no whiz kid spinner comes thru the ranks, there’s no reason Lyon doesn’t play for another 3-5 years. Perhaps even much longer. He seems like he’s a guy who loves it.
 
Flem274*

Flem274*

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id much rather play all my home games as spinner in india than aus. lyon for me, though the htb is improving away
 
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