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Arthur sacked
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BoyBrumby
Englishman
Must admit I'm surprised Arthur's contract wasn't paid in full. I'd assumed that's why he seemed so jovial at the presser in the aftermath.
In the UK when a sports team's coach/manager is awarded the order of the Spanish archer the remainder of their contracted tenure is stumped up by the employer, save those rare cases of gross misconduct.
In the UK when a sports team's coach/manager is awarded the order of the Spanish archer the remainder of their contracted tenure is stumped up by the employer, save those rare cases of gross misconduct.
howardj
International Coach
I agree - I was stunned that he wasn't paid out in full like most sacked coaches of professional teams are
Goughy
Hall of Fame Member
Dont offer it then or include some performance based clauses.
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
yeah actually I guess that's true.
Burgey
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At the level we're talking about, someone like Arthur would have management of his own to insist on certain clauses you'd imagine, including a big payout on early termination.
The other thing is, these allegations of racial vilification bring in the Penalty provisions of the FW Act. The Court can order penalties against the employer, but order them be paid to the aggrieved employee.
The other thing is, these allegations of racial vilification bring in the Penalty provisions of the FW Act. The Court can order penalties against the employer, but order them be paid to the aggrieved employee.
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
Well if you hire someone on a long-term contract, and they don't breach any provisions which trigger a termination right, it is purely on the organisation isn't it? If the hired employee hasn't breached the agreed triggers (bringing the game/team/organisation into disrepute, misconduct etc.) and its not a redundancy (as he is being replaced)... well why shouldn't he be paid out in full?
vic_orthdox
Global Moderator
Good article in the SMH about the leak, and Harmers' reputation.
social
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Apparently there were performance hurdles in his contract that haven't been met but Arthur's lawyers are arguing that:
a. he was given insufficient (i.e. none) notice of dismissal; and
b. insufficient support by CA to enable him to achieve the required hurdles
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
howardj
International Coach
I would defer to the lawyer in that article's superior knowledge, and also Burgey's, but would have thought Sutherland's "scapegoat" admission was pretty damning at least in establishing unfair dismissal
I think the racism thing is a long shot though, although I've got no doubt that as things started to go sour this year, his status as an outsider didn't help
I think the racism thing is a long shot though, although I've got no doubt that as things started to go sour this year, his status as an outsider didn't help
Will this be a dampner??
This is really big. With the coach getting sacked before the second test, I am interested to see what happnes to the team moral. On the top of that, the current Australia team also has rifts between their strong players. The Engalnd team will definitely be scheming to take full advantage of this chaos!
Jono
Virat Kohli (c)
I think (although it wasn't clear!) that Tim Fuller was only referring to the racial discrimination aspect of the case when he said it was likely to fail. The "regular" unfair dismissal aspect probably has more legs. Particularly if they didn't use any termination provision to end the agreement.
the big bambino
International Captain
Lost all respect for Arthur when he pulled that racism bull****. Well I lost it over homeworkgate then I manufactured some so I could lose respect for him again.
Viscount Tom
International Debutant
He got sacked a bit before the first test actually,team performances suddenly got better.