Archived [19/01/09] Battrick

[Dead Badger]

It's Secondaries Sunday at Beard XI. Okay so it's Monday, but never mind.

1. Liam Bromby - 20 yo, BT Rating=47,013
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, strong batting form, superb bowling form, lively
A cautious player with woeful leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: remarkable
Batting: strong Concentration: wonderful
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: worthless

3. Colin Janes - 20 yo, BT Rating=29,763
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
A cautious player with proficient leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: proficient Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: remarkable Concentration: superb
Bowling: worthless Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: abysmal

7. Carl Oleary - 20 yo, BT Rating=27,961
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
An attacking player with respectable leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: woeful Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: quality Consistency: superb
Fielding: woeful

11. Sam Pead - 20 yo, BT Rating=18,608
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, woeful bowling form, invigorated
A defensive player with abysmal leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: quality Consistency: strong
Fielding: worthless

12. Darren Piercy - 17 yo, BT Rating=6,936
RH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, respectable bowling form, invigorated
A cautious player with worthless leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: respectable Consistency: respectable
Fielding: worthless

Only Platt misses out on the popathon.

 

[Olwe]

my three new signings (i hope i made the right desitions)


Howard Cave - 17 yo, BT Rating=4,650
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, abysmal batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: competent
Bowling: woeful Consistency: worthless
Fielding: woeful



Luke Frazer - 17 yo, BT Rating=2,297
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, abysmal batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: competent
Bowling: worthless Consistency: worthless
Fielding: worthless

Steven Geldenhuys - 18 yo, BT Rating=2,924
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable batting form, proficient bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with mediocre leadership skills and worthless experience.
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: abysmal
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: worthless


my brother bought cave for me (he spent way to much) and i bought Frazer for £4,000 (not bad!

 

[Mahindinho]

Gibb's finally popped, to Exceptional bowling. Think I'll stop his primary there, but he's due a consistency pop (currently Wonderful)...so I might stick a fielding net on him. He's 22, so I _could_ conceivably leave him on one bowling net, but it'd take a whole season, and I'm going to try and get myself a batting trainee.

Buckley, my shiny all-rounder trainee, has hit the heights of Woeful stamina.

I'm playing the bottom side in FC tomorrow -- BTRs 40k and below, so no great threats, and several of his players have PFLs around moderate. Resting Gibb and saving Fish for OD, as that's where I'm struggling. I could get away with resting another bowler, but I'd quite like to get this one finished in two days.

 

[Athlai]

Howard Cave - 17 yo, BT Rating=4,650
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, abysmal batting form, superb bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
7 Stamina: 7
13 Batting: 6 Concentration:7
6 Bowling: 4 Consistency:2
26


Luke Frazer - 17 yo, BT Rating=2,297
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, abysmal batting form, woeful bowling form, sublime
A defensive player with respectable leadership skills and worthless experience.
6 Stamina: 6
13 Batting: 6 Concentration: 7
4 Bowling: 2 Consistency: 2
23

Steven Geldenhuys - 18 yo, BT Rating=2,924
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable batting form, proficient bowling form, sublime
An attacking player with mediocre leadership skills and worthless experience.
6 Stamina: 6
5 Batting: 2 Concentration: 3
12 Bowling: 6 Consistency: 6

23
Greg Ifill - 25 yo, BT Rating=7,154 (C)
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, superb batting form, strong bowling form, fatigued
A destructive player with proficient leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: 5
9 Batting: 6 Concentration: 3
15 Bowling: 8 Consistency: 7
29


Ifill's a gun.

 

[Bobisback]

What are the numbers?

 

[Athlai]

What are the numbers?

Words turned into points. Till I'm more familiar with the words, I'm preferring to use numbers to assess the worth of players.

 

[bugssy]

no pops today and my bowlers are still struggling which is frustrating as i just dont have the depth to rest em all at once or the quality for that fact. i have an easy one day game so fc this week i will rest em all again and see what happens.could be an even contest with my opposition under me on the table.

 

[Mahindinho]

Words turned into points. Till I'm more familiar with the words, I'm preferring to use numbers to assess the worth of players.

Fair enough. One problem, though -- it looks as though you're adding primary and secondary to give overall batting and bowling values. This can be misleading, as the primary is more important than the secondary -- when evaluating players, I rate batting/bowling twice as important as conc/cons.

For example, consider these players:

Batting  Conc    Your Rating  My Rating
Strong   Feeble    9+4=[B]13[/B]     9x2+4=[B]22[/B]
Feeble   Strong    4+9=[B]13[/B]     4x2+9=[B]17[/B]

Obviously, the scale is different, but you can see that the first player is going to be better than the second...which a very simple rating mechanism won't reflect.

Obviously, stamina needs to be considered, and it gets more complicated for wicketkeepers.

 

[EARLOBE]

my three new signings (i hope i made the right desitions)

my brother bought cave for me (he spent way to much) and i bought Frazer for £4,000 (not bad!

You did pretty well there I'd say. I've got a med/med/med batsmen on the market for $5,000 if you're interested.

Bobby Boyle (1625963)


LH Batsman, LM Bowler, respectable batting form, respectable bowling form, fresh
A cautious player with worthless leadership skills and worthless experience.

Plays For: Male Models
Nationality: Australia
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 2,377
Wages: £349 p/w
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: mediocre Concentration: mediocre
Bowling: worthless Consistency: worthless
Fielding: worthless

 

[Bobisback]

Fair enough. One problem, though -- it looks as though you're adding primary and secondary to give overall batting and bowling values. This can be misleading, as the primary is more important than the secondary -- when evaluating players, I rate batting/bowling twice as important as conc/cons.

For example, consider these players:

Batting  Conc    Your Rating  My Rating
Strong   Feeble    9+4=[B]13[/B]     9x2+4=[B]22[/B]
Feeble   Strong    4+9=[B]13[/B]     4x2+9=[B]17[/B]

Obviously, the scale is different, but you can see that the first player is going to be better than the second...which a very simple rating mechanism won't reflect.

Obviously, stamina needs to be considered, and it gets more complicated for wicketkeepers.

Surely primary is more then just x2. There was a formula floating around these parts a while ago (Primaryx2+Secondary)/4 iirc

 

[Athlai]

Fair enough. One problem, though -- it looks as though you're adding primary and secondary to give overall batting and bowling values. This can be misleading, as the primary is more important than the secondary -- when evaluating players, I rate batting/bowling twice as important as conc/cons.

For example, consider these players:

Batting  Conc    Your Rating  My Rating
Strong   Feeble    9+4=[B]13[/B]     9x2+4=[B]22[/B]
Feeble   Strong    4+9=[B]13[/B]     4x2+9=[B]17[/B]

Obviously, the scale is different, but you can see that the first player is going to be better than the second...which a very simple rating mechanism won't reflect.

Obviously, stamina needs to be considered, and it gets more complicated for wicketkeepers.

Use it as a very basic guideline TBH.

 

[Spitfires_Fan]

my brother bought cave for me (he spent way to much) and i bought Frazer for £4,000 (not bad!

Those are decent signings for a new team, so well done. You need to be careful about your brother buying for you though - does he have his own side as well? If so, I think I'm right in saying that he shouldn't be logging into your team at all. If you're both playing from the same computer, you need to inform the admin team asap and let them know, otherwise you're likely to get into trouble for what could be perceived as cheating.

One pop for me today:

11. Danny Woods - 18 yo, BT Rating=10,290
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, strong batting form, superb bowling form, energetic
A steady player with mediocre leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: respectable Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: mediocre
Bowling: proficient Consistency: respectable
Fielding: abysmal

Woods is my second player to break the 10k BTR mark (after Kepler). He's doing ok considering I got him as a med/med bowler with feeble stamina. To that end, I've decided to double net him until he pops to strong and then stop training him, with a view to acquiring a 17 year old next season with at least resp/med bowling as a starting point. I'll then train him up to be my strike bowler in seasons to come and keep Woods as a solid workhorse. I'm going to be in V for a few seasons yet I would imagine, and a strong/resp bowler ought to be taking wickets consistently at that level.

 

[Olwe]

i have just chaged my password and i will stop the auto sign in, but at the moment he does not have is own team but he will have one soon as he is trying to sign up.

but my qustion is how do you know when a player is about to "pop".
as Cave had just poped as i had siged him hes was a con/med/med but now he is as you have seen a con/med/con.

 

[Spitfires_Fan]

Ok, you still need to inform the admin though. From the Rules:

Please also note that you are the manager of your team. No-one else is allowed to access it, not even close friends or family. We also do not allow managers to buy players from teams which share computers or IP addresses. If you are accessing your team from a computer used by a fellow Battrick user then please contact us, naming all individuals involved. While you are most welcome to play Battrick in that situation, any transfers between these teams and your own will be in breach of the rules and severely punished.

As for popping, you can get a general idea of when a player is about to pop by their wages, which are reset to their new level at the beginning of each season, depending on what that player's skill levels are. If you go to keggut's helpfile, under Community > Links and then go to Wages, it will give you an approximate starting wage for each primary level (wages are affected by secondaries - it's often difficult to estimate when these will pop).

You can also tell when a player is going to pop if they have already popped for you and you are being consistent in their training. For example, my 18 year old Woods popped to proficient bowling today. That makes him Proficient (+0). If you go to Training Speeds on keggut's helpfile, it'll tell you how long players take to pop to the next level on various different nets. As an 18 year old on two bowling nets, I know that after popping today to proficient, Woods will pop to strong bowling in 8.2 weeks, as long as I keep him on two bowling nets. If I was to change my mind in a few weeks and take him down to one bowling net, it would become harder to predict when he would pop, but it would still give me a general idea.

If you haven't already, read through the entirety of keggut's helpfile - there is a wealth of information in there.

 

[Mahindinho]

Surely primary is more then just x2. There was a formula floating around these parts a while ago (Primaryx2+Secondary)/4 iirc

I can't remember for sure, but I think someone reckoned that, for players' wages, secondaries contribute about a sixth as much as their primaries.

In terms of significance on the pitch, I definitely rate secondaries highly -- half as important as primaries, and even more so for certain positions/orders. I reckon concentration is extra-important for opening batsmen, and for defensive bowlers on long spells. I've never been able to test it conclusively, however, as most of my players have secondaries pretty close to their primaries.

 

[trevor_vayro]

Contrasting fortunes for Cymru Gurgitaters. Having only lost our opening OD match to League Leaders Aquantra CC, we remain in 2nd in III.7, in good shape for back-to-back promotions. Wheras in Fc, two embarrassing reverses in our last two
Matches have seen us slip to fourth, with a question mark over Div.IV survival for the first time.

The full first team will contest tomorrow's FC encounter, away to Flying Wickets, as we face a Bot in Friday's OD match, leaving plenty of recovery time before the 16th November rematch against Aquantra CC.

One pop this week, and one last, which I didn't have time to report, but surely both can't be too far away from CW representative honours?

Matthew Akhtar (1282894)
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, proficient bowling form, energetic
A destructive player with worthless leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: England
Age: 18 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 11,015 (+438)
Wages: £2,046 p/w
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: *superb* Concentration: competent
Bowling: worthless Consistency: worthless
Fielding: abysmal

Surely a shout for the U19s?

Doug Greening (334385)
RH Batsman, RF Bowler, feeble batting form, strong bowling form, energetic
A steady player with feeble leadership skills and competent experience.
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: England
Age: 23 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 46,230 (+156)
Wages: £25,799 p/w
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: feeble
Batting: sensational Concentration: *quality*
Bowling: abysmal Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: proficient

Can't be a million miles away from the full CW side now?

And Noon became my first player through the 70K BTR barrier, reaching 72,573

A good YP, except I gambled the wrong way, otherwise he could have been even better. Optimistically listed for £1M, though looking at the TM, no Med/Comp 17YOs are going for much more than £100K, though on the bright side there is noone else as good as him listed.

Daniel Hick (1630214)
RH Batsman, LM Bowler, respectable batting form, respectable bowling form, fresh
A defensive player with feeble leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Plays For: Cymru Gurgitaters
Nationality: England
Age: 17 Years Old
Battrick Rating: 6,984
Wages: £1,111 p/w
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: competent
Batting: mediocre Concentration: woeful
Bowling: competent Consistency: mediocre
Fielding: worthless

Later, Trev

 

[Jamee999]

Dwight Kealey - 20 yo, BT Rating=92,490
RH Batsman, RM Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, moderate
An attacking player with worthless leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: remarkable Concentration: remarkable
Bowling: exceptional Consistency: quality
Fielding: superb

Marvin Warnock - 19 yo, BT Rating=54,646
LH Batsman, LH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, lively
A steady player with proficient leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: superb Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: wonderful Concentration: quality
Bowling: worthless Consistency: respectable
Fielding: proficient

Good training

 

[headhunter]

Raymond Fordham - 19 yo, BT Rating=12,492
RH Batsman, RF Bowler, proficient batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
A defensive player with competent leadership skills and abysmal experience.
Stamina: mediocre Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: strong Concentration: proficient
Bowling: worthless Consistency: abysmal
Fielding: woeful

1 pop this week. Our top batsman continues to grow

 

[NZTailender]

Neale Gleeson - 19 yo, BT Rating=24,700
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, respectable batting form, proficient bowling form, energetic
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and woeful experience.
Stamina: competent Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: worthless
Bowling: wonderful Consistency: proficient
Fielding: worthless

My first wonderful. Hoorah.

 

[nibbs]

Tim Morrison - 21 yo, BT Rating=84,522
RH Batsman, RFM Bowler, superb batting form, proficient bowling form, energetic
A steady player with mediocre leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: strong Wicket Keeping: quality
Batting: exceptional Concentration: sensational
Bowling: mediocre Consistency: strong
Fielding: worthless

James Vermaak - 21 yo, BT Rating=59,094
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, strong batting form, superb bowling form, invigorated
A defensive player with abysmal leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: proficient Wicket Keeping: abysmal
Batting: respectable Concentration: respectable
Bowling: exceptional Consistency: superb
Fielding: strong

Arnold Janes - 20 yo, BT Rating=34,032
RH Batsman, RH Spin Bowler, superb batting form, superb bowling form, fresh
A destructive player with respectable leadership skills and mediocre experience.
Stamina: proficient Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: remarkable Concentration: superb
Bowling: worthless Consistency: woeful
Fielding: woeful

Dom Graham - 20 yo, BT Rating=47,254
LH Batsman, LM Bowler, strong batting form, superb bowling form, lively
A defensive player with worthless leadership skills and feeble experience.
Stamina: proficient Wicket Keeping: worthless
Batting: worthless Concentration: proficient
Bowling: exceptional Consistency: superb
Fielding: feeble


Duggan still getting f'd in the a by the gay form gods. oh well