Appalling umpiring

[vic_orthdox]

on average - 27 hey ??.......and that was on average what, 27 per test?, per innings?, per over?

Good figure you pulled up there stats man

I can't remember whether it was 27 bad decisions, or 27 LBWs, but there was 27 decisions against Pakistan to about 8 or 9 for Australia - figures that came out of the Pakistani camp, IIRC. Woolmer mentioned them in a press conference.

 

[magsi23]

on average - 27 hey ??.......and that was on average what, 27 per test?, per innings?, per over?

Good figure you pulled up there stats man

Im sure you wont remember kid, it was the whole series tests and ODI's, Cry all you want, but atleast admit youve been beaten by better side

 

[magsi23]

I can't remember whether it was 27 bad decisions, or 27 LBWs, but there was 27 decisions against Pakistan to about 8 or 9 for Australia - figures that came out of the Pakistani camp, IIRC. Woolmer mentioned them in a press conference.

Look all im saying is these things happend and could easily be England on receiving end in next match, but you have to get on with it

 

[magsi23]

on average - 27 hey ??.......and that was on average what, 27 per test?, per innings?, per over?

Good figure you pulled up there stats man

Remember the Final of Videocon Cup in Amsterdam last year?

 

[vic_orthdox]

Look all im saying is these things happend and could easily be England on receiving end in next match, but you have to get on with it

Geez, last time I try and back up your facts.

I think one thing being overlooked is how well England have appealed, while Australia don't seem to be as convincing, especially when Warne is bowling, and look as though they're just trying to pull the wool over the umpire's eyes.

 

[Nuffy]

I just hope that on the off chance that Australia retain the Ashes on the back of some **** decisions, all you even tempered English fans will be happy to say "its cricket, thats what happens"

The issue is not that bad decisions are being made, its the fact that every decision thats critical is being given to the benefit of Eng.....no I not suggesting that the umpires are cheating, just that every mistake they are making is punishing Australia, look at the Katich decision, that was critical, all the Flintoff one when he was on 8, how was Flintoff not out but Katich was, these are critical decisions that are consistently running against Australia.

I'm sure if Australia wins the 5th test to retain the Ashes on the back of questionable umpiring, the English fans will scream the joint down.

 

[sqwerty]

Geez, last time I try and back up your facts.

I think one thing being overlooked is how well England have appealed, while Australia don't seem to be as convincing, especially when Warne is bowling, and look as though they're just trying to pull the wool over the umpire's eyes.

When you've got the barmy army going up with you every time it's not hard to convince Bucknor. He's always gone on the strength of the appeal

 

[sqwerty]

Im sure you wont remember kid, it was the whole series tests and ODI's, Cry all you want, but atleast admit youve been beaten by better side

Not crying....just observing......and I'm honestly not stuffed about whether we retain the ashes or not (you'll find you'll become that way if you string 20 or 30 ashes series in a row together or whatever it is we've won).

With all respect to Pakistan (and I can't even remember the Pakistan series and I was most likely sitting in the members at the SCG for it assuming they played a test in Sydney) I'm sure it didn't have the same effect on the result as in this series.

...........and as for your last request........We're not beaten yet.

 

[Dasa]

Geez, last time I try and back up your facts.

I think one thing being overlooked is how well England have appealed, while Australia don't seem to be as convincing, especially when Warne is bowling, and look as though they're just trying to pull the wool over the umpire's eyes.

That's a good point - Warne has been going way over the top with his appealing this series (even by his standards) - the umpires seem to have taken that negatively and instinctively turn him down.

 

[wahindiawah]

Not crying....just observing......and I'm honestly not stuffed about whether we retain the ashes or not (you'll find you'll become that way if you string 20 or 30 ashes series in a row together or whatever it is we've won).

With all respect to Pakistan (and I can't even remember the Pakistan series and I was most likely sitting in the members at the SCG for it assuming they played a test in Sydney) I'm sure it didn't have the same effect on the result as in this series.

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Wrong decisions are wrong decisions, you can't be selective in protesting over it.

Anyone remember Tendulkar being given out in Australia LBW, which looked more like head before wicket???

 

[Slats4ever]

problem was that was out. Even if it was head before wicket it is still that... "before wicket" and that's all that matters.

 

[sqwerty]

Wrong decisions are wrong decisions, you can't be selective in protesting over it.

Anyone remember Tendulkar being given out in Australia LBW, which looked more like head before wicket???

well he is only a little fella !

 

[SJS]

Reminds me of.....

Whats the difference between a whore and a bit** ?

If a woman sleeps around with the entire town she is a whore. If she sleeps around with the entire town except with me she is a bi**h.

Quite the same with 'bad umpiring that is part of the game" as against "bad umpiring that decided the outcome of the game/series"

 

[Adamc]

Both decision I think came from Bucknor. Both were clear and should have been picked up by a veteran umpire.

The second one wasn't Bucknor.

 

[marc71178]

on average - 27 hey ??.......and that was on average what, 27 per test?, per innings?, per over?

Good figure you pulled up there stats man

I think you'll find it was of the 50-50 decisions 27 went in favour of Aus, and a handful in favour of Pakistan.

At the time Woolmer mentioned it, a lot of Aussies went on about how they should accept it and move on.

Funnily enough, similar things are going on here...

 

[marc71178]

The issue is not that bad decisions are being made, its the fact that every decision thats critical is being given to the benefit of Eng.....

Except the ones that go in Australia's way (that have been pointed out but you seem to be ignoring...)

 

[thierry henry]

problem was that was out. Even if it was head before wicket it is still that... "before wicket" and that's all that matters.

.........except that it was going miles over the top.

The decisions for England in this series haven't been nearly as bad as the decisions for Aus against NZ in Aus last year.

 

[greg]

It is a fact that in virtually every sport there is a thing called home advantage. And a large part of this is due to the home crowds and a large part of this is the subconscious effect they have on the umpires/refereeing. Cricket is no different. The best match officials will manage to resist but even they cannot manage entirely. Using your conscious mind to try and adjust for the subconscious leads to dangerous territory (I hope that makes sense!).

Interestingly the last time I can remember the balance of umpiring being against England in a home series was in 2001 vs Pakistan - when the culprit was an Englishman! (Shep). I do not think it is ridiculous to suggest that the best thing opposition teams could do to slightly pull back the balance towards them when touring England is to campaign for the return of home umpires. Needless to say this is not something which would work in reverse - this is something which I believe would hinder England and no other country. Australians having a history of being right up with the worse for 'Homers'