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An experiment (part 1)

Tom Halsey

International Coach
Steve has outperformed them in his last 12 or so games or so though.

I'm just guessing, but he'd probably have the best bowling average for the last 12 games of any that you mentioned.
 

Protea

School Boy/Girl Captain
Hey, hey! I know he's good. You don't have to convince me. He's had a good couple of series. :D
 

CrimeMasterGogo

School Boy/Girl Captain
1. V. Sehwag
2. G. Smith
3. R. Dravid
4. S. Tendulkar
5. B. Lara
6. J. Kallis
7. +K. Sangakara
8. S. Pollock
9. S. Harmison
10. S. Akhtar
11. M. Muralitharan
 

Protea

School Boy/Girl Captain
CrimeMasterGogo said:
1. V. Sehwag
2. G. Smith
3. R. Dravid
4. S. Tendulkar
5. B. Lara
6. J. Kallis
7. +K. Sangakara
8. S. Pollock
9. S. Harmison
10. S. Akhtar
11. M. Muralitharan
Good team
 

PY

International Coach
He's not been consistent though. 2 series out of 18 series with 20+ wickets (and one of those is with an average of 35) and 6 more with 10+ wickets.

But anyway, this isn't what this thread is for. Apologies to all.
 

nookie_lk

First Class Debutant
test side(true world XI)
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Habibul bashar
Sachin Tendulkar
Kumar Sangakkara +
Rahul Dravid
Brain Lara
Inzamam Ul haq
Yuvraj Sinhg
Andrew Flintoff
Mohomad Sami
Steven Harmison
Muttia Muralidaran

reserves - Vass, Kallis, V Sehwag, T best, shoaib malik

One day side
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H Gibbs
Sachin Tendulkar
Kumar Sangakkara +
Rahul Dravid
Brain Lara
Inzamam Ul haq
J Kallis
Yuvraj Sinhg
Andrew Flintoff
Steven Harmison
Muttia Muralidaran
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Right, I've had a chance to analyse the figures, and it's safe to say that the side we come up with is pretty conclusive (a quick check tells me that 9 of the 11 are identical to mine :))

Openers:

In all, 9 were selected, including somewhat bizarrely Bashar, Tendulkar and Sangakarra.

At the end of the day, there were only 3 in contention, and Graeme Smith (16 votes) and Herschelle Gibbs (17) were selected to continue their successful opening partnership for South Africa ahead of Michael Vaughan (12)

Into the middle order, and my intention was to have 4 batsmen, then a keeper at 7 and 4 bowlers.

10 different names cropped up here, but amazingly Andrew Flintoff (10) got the same number of votes as the other 5 who weren't selected - VVS Laxman (5), Inzamam (2), Fleming (1), Thorpe (1) and for some reason Yuvraj (1).

That left 4 clear picks, one of whom was actually selected by all 29 managers, Brian Lara, followed by Rahul Dravid (26), Jacques Kallis (24) and Sachin Tendulkar (22).

Despite a couple of people each nominating Tatenda Taibu and Geraint Jones (another strange pick IMO), it was always between Kumar Sangakarra and Mark Boucher, and the Sri Lankan's superior batting appears to have swayed people rather than Boucher's keeping, as he took the vote by 13.5 to 11.5 (one person cheated and picked both as an either or!). It was a strange move IMO, as the number of people who listed Sangakarra at number 7 (where he has precious little experience) rather than where he's normally placed in the order was high, and suggests to me the continual demise of the specialist keeper as a commodity in the eyes of the modern cricket fan.

Anyway, onto the bowlers, and again we had 4 fairly clear leaders, and then a large gap to the rest. Most people favoured the 3 seamer and 1 spinner approach - hence Muttiah Muralitharan (27) was clearly going to give Anil Kumble (5) and Harbhajan Singh (1) no hope of selection.

With the seamers, there were honourable mentions for Chaminda Vaas (5), Makhaya Ntini (5) and the seemingly perpetually injured Shane Bond (4), as well a couple of more random votes for Tino Best and Mohammad Sami (1 each).

Nothing however was going to stop Shaun Pollock (25), Steve Harmison (22) and Shoaib Akhtar (16) from completing the eleven.

All that was now left was to sort the batting order, which came obviously from the pattern of selectors and pick a captain.

This was the closest call of the lot, with 5 of the selected 11 receiving votes (in addition to Vauaghan (3) and Fleming (1). In the end Graeme Smith's experience as a captain meant his 7 nominations just pipped Rahul Dravid (6) and Brian Lara (4) - Pollock and Tendulkar picking up 1 each.

So there you have it, the 11 selected by you lot to take on Australia if it were played tomorrow:

Smith (c)
Gibbs
Dravid
Tendulkar
Lara
Kallis
Sangakarra (wk)
Pollock
Akhtar
Harmison
Muralitharan
 

tooextracool

International Coach
marc71178 said:
That left 4 clear picks, one of whom was actually selected by all 29 managers, Brian Lara, followed by Rahul Dravid (26), Jacques Kallis (24) and Sachin Tendulkar (22).
how those 3 ppl managed to not pick rahul dravid, i'll never know.......
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
That's a lovely side. No all rounder option listed, but I guess Pollock could be listed under that area anyway.

Four South Africans, two Indians, one West Indian, two Pakistani, one Englishman, two Sri Lanki. No New Zealanders, Zimbabweans, Kenyans or Bangladeshi.

Very happy with our result - a lot better than the Cricinfo version, that's for sure. ;)
 

Loony BoB

International Captain
Oh, yeah, I was just referring to you saying that you'll take two openers, four batsmen, one wicky and four bowlers instead of keeping a specific place for all rounders to contend with each other for. But the end result, as we both said, has Pollock, and as you said has Kallis, so it really never mattered after all. :)
 

Kent

State 12th Man
marc71178 said:
it was always between Kumar Sangakarra and Mark Boucher, and the Sri Lankan's superior batting appears to have swayed people rather than Boucher's keeping, as he took the vote by 13.5 to 11.5 (one person cheated and picked both as an either or!). It was a strange move IMO, as the number of people who listed Sangakarra at number 7 (where he has precious little experience) rather than where he's normally placed in the order was high, and suggests to me the continual demise of the specialist keeper as a commodity in the eyes of the modern cricket fan.
Has Boucher ever kept to quality spinners though? If so, when?
 

marc71178

Eyes not spreadsheets
Just because he hasn't kept to Murali doesn't make him a bad keeper - considering that he is used to batting at 7 or 8 and averages 30 as well as being a better keeper, I feel he was most unfortunate to miss out.
 

biased indian

International Coach
Loony BoB said:
That's a lovely side. No all rounder option listed, but I guess Pollock could be listed under that area anyway.

Four South Africans, two Indians, one West Indian, two Pakistani, one Englishman, two Sri Lanki. No New Zealanders, Zimbabweans, Kenyans or Bangladeshi.

Very happy with our result - a lot better than the Cricinfo version, that's for sure. ;)
we can have billy as umpire and any one else from other three team
for unbiased umpiring :D so a NZ also will be there at the ground
 

biased indian

International Coach
marc71178 said:
That left 4 clear picks, one of whom was actually selected by all 29 managers, Brian Lara, followed by Rahul Dravid (26), Jacques Kallis (24) and Sachin Tendulkar (22).
i think there were 30 teams and all selected LARA but 28 selected Dravid
only two who didnt select dravid was Craig and protea

or is that u didnt count neilm team then also dravid was in 27teams. i am just pointing out the mistake :)
 
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