ankitj
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That describes me too.
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Ambrose or Mcgrath?
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Prince EWS
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Nah not really; I don't think either of them are amongst the best four bowlers of all time.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
It seems a harsh call at first to say they're not amongst top 4. I don't think they're far behind. who's your top 4?
OverratedSanity
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Frankly just like the batsmen, there's virtually nothing to choose between any of the 15 greatest fast bowlers... Wouldn't be harsh to leave anyone out if the top 4, because an equally good bowler is taking his place
ankitj
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Speaking for myself, it will be Murali, Marshall, Barnes and Hadlee
Prince EWS
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Yeah they'd be more four too, not necessarily in that order. I'd always pick Imran as one of my bowlers in my ATWXI due to the aforementioned "allrounder fetish" but those four are IMO the best four Test bowlers of all time, with O'Reilly probably fifth. Ambrose is probably next up.
GuyFromLancs
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McGrath - but by a margin so small it can only be displayed using complex algebra
watson
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That really doesn't make too much sense as Hadlee-Marshall-Barnes-Murali is obviously plenty strong enough as far as batting is concerned. Not only does the team bat down to 9 (Marshall was perfectly competent with the bat) but it also has the 4 best/strongest bowlers in history - which is a desirable priority.
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watson
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So batting skill aside Flem - what 4 bowlers do you think would form the best/strongest attack of all time if those mentioned above don't?
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Flem274*
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You mean excluding the above four?
That's a really hard one because there's a big list. Stream of consciousness I would pick..
McGrath
Steyn
Ambrose
Murali
Steyn the most debateable. Holding, Davidson, Garner, Trueman, Wasim and Lindwall also crossed my mind but I went with my man crush.
That's a really hard one because there's a big list. Stream of consciousness I would pick..
McGrath
Steyn
Ambrose
Murali
Steyn the most debateable. Holding, Davidson, Garner, Trueman, Wasim and Lindwall also crossed my mind but I went with my man crush.
watson
Banned
No, including absolutely everybody.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
What? Cricket exised before 1988?
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
on flat wickets, maybe some humidity:
Imran
Akram
Marshall
Murali
neither Imran nor Akram are in the top 5 bowlers of all time but they make this team for composition reasons.
On grassy wickets:
Hadlee
Marshall
Murali
Ambrose
Ambrose and Hadlee have a shot at making my top 5, but this is a horse-for-courses selection. I really don't think you're giving up much between most of the bowlers in the top ten, and it's better to shuffle them depending on conditions.
Imran
Akram
Marshall
Murali
neither Imran nor Akram are in the top 5 bowlers of all time but they make this team for composition reasons.
On grassy wickets:
Hadlee
Marshall
Murali
Ambrose
Ambrose and Hadlee have a shot at making my top 5, but this is a horse-for-courses selection. I really don't think you're giving up much between most of the bowlers in the top ten, and it's better to shuffle them depending on conditions.
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The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
If you have a hard and fast bowler than I'd take McGrath. I'd only take Ambrose of these two if I needed an intimidator.
harsh.ag
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I would take this attack and just replace Imran with McGrath. Overall, gives better variety and depth, I think. Plus, his record in India is good. Imran is of course, as good a selection.
The Battlers Prince
International Vice-Captain
Yeah, I don't think yo can have Akram and Imran in an ATG side
hendrix
Hall of Fame Member
on flat wickets it makes sense to me. It's not that McGrath, Ambrose, Hadlee etc weren't also very good in the subcontinent - they were fantastic - but in those particular conditions where movement in the air rather than off the pitch is the premium, it's those bowlers I'd want there.