Am I missing something?

[Richard]

Because it apparently works on a consistent system.
And because everyone wants a way to do what is not possible. Well, almost everyone.
Because I don't believe there should be an attempt at one. I've said that enough times, so stop asking a question I have answered perfectly satisfactarily.

 

[Swervy]

Because it apparently works on a consistent system.
And because everyone wants a way to do what is not possible. Well, almost everyone.
Because I don't believe there should be an attempt at one. I've said that enough times, so stop asking a question I have answered perfectly satisfactarily.

you arent that bothered by the ratings and dont agree there should be ratings...and yet you felt strongly enough to question why Oram was ranked 9th.

 

[Kent]

Wouldn't injuries/bans be playing a major role in Oram getting as high as 9th?

Bond, Warne, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Shoaib, etc.

 

[cbuts]

or maybe rankings go on current form instead of career. orams average and rpo in the past year or two would be substancially better than that. average particully

 

[Richard]

Wouldn't injuries/bans be playing a major role in Oram getting as high as 9th?

Bond, Warne, Harbhajan, Zaheer, Shoaib, etc.

Bond, Warne and Shoaib maybe, but Khan and Harbhajan are no way top-10 material.
Sadly, Khan is another who is immensely flattered by his ODI average.

 

[Richard]

or maybe rankings go on current form instead of career. orams average and rpo in the past year or two would be substancially better than that. average particully

Wrong.
Oram's TVS Cup produced an ER of about 6.5-an-over and 1 wicket in the whole tournament.
About the worst tournament I've ever seen a bowler have.

 

[Richard]

you arent that bothered by the ratings and dont agree there should be ratings...and yet you felt strongly enough to question why Oram was ranked 9th.

It was simply yet another demonstration of the absurdity of the things.
Not anything especially with Oram.

 

[marc71178]

Sadly, Khan is another who is immensely flattered by his ODI average.

Based on...

You don't like him either then?

 

[Richard]

GIVE IT UP YOU SILLY STUCK RECORD!!!!!!
Yes, he doesn't take many wickets though good bowling, though.

 

[Swervy]

GIVE IT UP YOU SILLY STUCK RECORD!!!!!!
Yes, he doesn't take many wickets though good bowling, though.

hehehehe...had to laugh....richard, you have gone up in my estimation, just coz you have shown signs of a human weakness as opposed to your normal robotic self..ie you have been wound up.....not that I encourage the winding up of forum members

 

[Richard]

marc has repeated the same rubbish time and again.
I haven't managed to bore him out of it - maybe I can shock him out of it? :rolleyes:
God knows, I doubt it. It seems to be all he's got left to cling to.

 

[Swervy]

marc has repeated the same rubbish time and again.
I haven't managed to bore him out of it - maybe I can shock him out of it? :rolleyes:
God knows, I doubt it. It seems to be all he's got left to cling to.

hehehe..it may work

 

[Neil Pickup]

marc has repeated the same rubbish time and again.
I haven't managed to bore him out of it - maybe I can shock him out of it? :rolleyes:
God knows, I doubt it. It seems to be all he's got left to cling to.

I'm sure he could post the same about you.

He never gives anything up...

 

[marc71178]

marc has repeated the same rubbish time and again.

It's often been stated on here, that when someone starts to lose the discussion they resort to insults...

 

[The Argonaut]

Personally I would consider 4.5 to be a reasonable economy rate. Pitches these days are made to suit batting and scores of 250 plus are the norm. The number of scores above 300 is also on the increase.

Front line bowlers should aim for less than 4.5 and part timers should look for less than 6.

Oram is a handy all-rounder but I can't agree with his ranking of 9 as a OD bowler.

 

[Craig]

Personally I would consider 4.5 to be a reasonable economy rate. Pitches these days are made to suit batting and scores of 250 plus are the norm. The number of scores above 300 is also on the increase.

Front line bowlers should aim for less than 4.5 and part timers should look for less than 6.

Oram is a handy all-rounder but I can't agree with his ranking of 9 as a OD bowler.

To me anything under 4 is great, 4.5 an over is pretty good bowling, while 4.5-4.6 is acceptable enough for me.

Set as much high standards, even if you are playing against Australia. It is the only way you will do well.

 

[Eclipse]

marc has repeated the same rubbish time and again.

lol comming for the one guy on this forum almost evryone disagree's with time and again.

I wont disagree about Zaheer because I have not seen him take many wickets.

 

[Richard]

Personally I would consider 4.5 to be a reasonable economy rate. Pitches these days are made to suit batting and scores of 250 plus are the norm. The number of scores above 300 is also on the increase.

The quality of the pitch doesn't make it any harder to bowl well.
Accurate bowling isn't going to get hit around no matter how fast, slow or inconsistent the pitch, nor how much the ball is moving sideways, unless the batsmen use their feet. If you bowl at the right pace, you can stop that happening.
Though of course all of the above help.

 

[Richard]

It's often been stated on here, that when someone starts to lose the discussion they resort to insults...

It's been stated often in many places that when someone has to resort to repeating the same stuff in an attempt to make it true (all the stuff along the lines of "you make your mind up about a player then look for evidence") they are losing the argument.

 

[Neil Pickup]

It's been stated often in many places that when someone has to resort to repeating the same stuff in an attempt to make it true they are losing the argument.

Sounds like both sides of many arguments to me...