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All time world ODI XI game

kingkallis

International Coach
Aravinda and Miandad win.

World ODI First XI

Adam Gilchrist +
Sachin Tendulkar
Viv Richards
Virat Kohli
AB DeVilliers
Michael Bevan
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Muttiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath

World ODI Second XI

Mark Waugh
Sanath Jayasuriya
Ricky Ponting
Zaheer Abbas
Andrew Symonds
MS Dhoni +
Lance Klusener
Imran Khan
Shaun Pollock
Saqlain Mushtaq
Curtly Ambrose

World ODI Third XI

Shane Watson
Brian Lara
Kumar Sangakkara +
Dean Jones
Javed Miandad
Michael Hussey
Aravinda de Silva
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Waqar Younis
Alan Donald


- Select one opener

-Select the first-choice spinner

-Select one opening bowler

-Select wicketkeeper


I'll start the voting myself. In case of a tie, my vote will be ignored and the other player (that I haven't voted for) will win. My votes are for:

Hashim Amla
Daniel Vettori
Chaminda Vaas
Brendon McCullum
De Silva at 7 is seriously wasted!!!!!
 
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Himannv

Hall of Fame Member
De Silva at 7 is seriously wasted!!!!!
Agreed. I think de Silva and someone like Lloyd would have been a good combination. That way they can bat in the proper places in the order. In general this team needs batsmen who can score really quickly in the death overs and there is an overreliance on Hussey to produce the goods.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
that third XI could easily beat the first and second quite regularly.
Possibly on good bowling wickets, but it really lacks the firepower to compete with the first two on flat pitches.

Also, imo the batting strength of the first XI is being a bit underestimated, the 2-6 of that XI are not the first among equals, they are head and shoulders above most other batsman being counted in this exercise.
 
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stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Possibly on good bowling wickets, but it really lacks the firepower to compete with the first two on flat pitches.

Also, imo the batting strength of the first XI is being a bit underestimated, the 2-6 of that XI are not the first among equals, they are head and shoulders above most other batsman being counted in this exercise.
Agreed. However far behind the batting is, any attack featuring Warne, Waqar, Donald and Hadlee is going to be a handful on any deck. I actually think it's a better attack than the second XI (Pollock and Saqlain are both not as good as Hadlee and Warne IMO).

Waqar alone often ran through very good sides.

Anyway it's all conjecture and obviously the batting from the first team is stronger but I can see this side beating them semi - regularly.
 

ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
that third XI could easily beat the first and second quite regularly.
Regularly =/= win in 5 game series, right? I think the talent in first XI is just wicked, and a cut above the 2nd and 3rd XIs. Keep in mind it includes 10 out of top 11 ODI players as voted by CW.
 

ankitj

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Agreed. However far behind the batting is, any attack featuring Warne, Waqar, Donald and Hadlee is going to be a handful on any deck. I actually think it's a better attack than the second XI (Pollock and Saqlain are both not as good as Hadlee and Warne IMO).

Waqar alone often ran through very good sides.

Anyway it's all conjecture and obviously the batting from the first team is stronger but I can see this side beating them semi - regularly.
I have commented on Saqlain before so I'll leave that out. But Pollock is pretty damn good ODI bowler. He was the last of 3 bowlers to have ER of <4 (along with Muralidharan and McGrath) before ATG ER threshold moved decisively. I always knew this fact but I just happened to recheck the stats and turns out Pollock had a significantly better ER than McGrath (3.67 vs. 3.88) with whom his career overlapped almost completely. McGrath is a pretty superlative benchmark mind. Think I personally underrated Pollock's ODI bowling until now. Didn't think it was possible for anyone to have that ER for someone who played until 2008.
 
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stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
Regularly =/= win in 5 game series, right? I think the talent in first XI is just wicked, and a cut above the 2nd and 3rd XIs. Keep in mind it includes 10 out of top 11 ODI players as voted by CW.
No, my thinking is that they would win 1 or 2 in a 5 match series. The bowling attack in the third XI is going to have a good day and win it. Given the tail, if they can get down past Kapil the rest are poor with the bat.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
I have commented on Saqlain before so I'll leave that out. But Pollock is pretty damn good ODI bowler. He was the last of 3 bowlers to have ER of 4 (along with Muralidharan and McGrath) before ATG ER threshold moved decisively. I always knew this fact but I just happened to recheck the stats and turns out Pollock had a significantly better ER than McGrath (3.67 vs. 3.88) with whom his career overlapped almost completely. McGrath is a pretty superlative benchmark mind. Think I personally underrated Pollock's ODI bowling until now. Didn't think it was possible for anyone to have that ER for someone who played until 2008.
Yep, Pollock was a great ODI bowler. But I don't think he was as good as Hadlee and that's no slight on Pollock.
 

vcs

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No, my thinking is that they would win 1 or 2 in a 5 match series. The bowling attack in the third XI is going to have a good day and win it. Given the tail, if they can get down past Kapil the rest are poor with the bat.
You are never going to get a 5-0 blowout in any ATG vs. ATG XI.
 

srbhkshk

International Captain
The first two are both pure ATG, the third one has some borderline cases imo.

Edit - Maybe Symonds in second as well, not an ATG for me.
 
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Bolo

State Captain
Pollock is marginally behind McGrath and Garner, and on a similar level to Akram, but ahead of everyone else in my mind. In a weak lineup, somebody striking faster might be preferable, but the in an ATG lineup, he would be magnificent.

His average is a little high, but it's a symptom of late career. People just decided to block him out, and he would end up with figures of 1/30 from 10. I think he was actually at his best when this happened in my mind, because the opposition would be on the backfoot every game he played in.

I'm not so sure his late career line and length bowling would be as useful in the current era- I think batsmen have got better at dispatching it- but I think his earlier career quick lift would make him an even more effective bowler (relatively speaking, considering how the bat dominates) in the current era.
 

vcs

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I remember Pollock was unplayable when SA smashed us in the ODI series in 2006-07. Sachin/Ganguly/Sehwag etc. really struggled.
 

RK_123

School Boy/Girl Captain
Aravinda and Miandad win.

World ODI First XI

Adam Gilchrist +
Sachin Tendulkar
Viv Richards
Virat Kohli
AB DeVilliers
Michael Bevan
Kapil Dev
Wasim Akram
Joel Garner
Muttiah Muralitharan
Glenn McGrath

World ODI Second XI

Mark Waugh
Sanath Jayasuriya
Ricky Ponting
Zaheer Abbas
Andrew Symonds
MS Dhoni +
Lance Klusener
Imran Khan
Shaun Pollock
Saqlain Mushtaq
Curtly Ambrose

World ODI Third XI

Shane Watson
Brian Lara
Kumar Sangakkara +
Dean Jones
Javed Miandad
Michael Hussey
Aravinda de Silva
Richard Hadlee
Shane Warne
Waqar Younis
Alan Donald


- Select one opener

-Select the first-choice spinner

-Select one opening bowler

-Select wicketkeeper


I'll start the voting myself. In case of a tie, my vote will be ignored and the other player (that I haven't voted for) will win. My votes are for:

Hashim Amla
Daniel Vettori
Chaminda Vaas
Brendon McCullum
Greendige
Tahir
Starc
McCullum
 

RK_123

School Boy/Girl Captain
Tough call really between Starc and Lee. Went with Starc although Lee himself is an ATG odi bowler.
 

stephen

Cricket Web: All-Time Legend
My defining late-career Pollock memory is him being the #1 ranked bowler and Hayden tearing him apart in the ODI WC opener.
 

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