All time best ODI team

[Furball]

Pollok's the most over-rated ODI bowler there is.

 

[viriya]

Pollok's the most underrated ODI bowler there is.

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[Red]

What if he is unable to sustain his form like those guys have for most part of their career? Would you still consider him for an all time best team simply because he is a left-arm?

Again...
Its a team of left handers.

 

[GotSpin]

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Spreadsheets or this means nothing

 

[watson]

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Pollok's the most over-rated ODI bowler there is.

Shaun Pollock's ODI career in numbers (2008)

A rare blue chip

......Pollock currently has 3509 runs and 392 wickets from 302 ODIs, making him only the second player after Wasim Akram to complete the double of 3500 runs and 350 wickets in the limited-over version. He's also in an exclusive club of four players with over 2500 runs and 250 wickets in ODIs.

.....One aspect of Pollock's bowling that has stood out has been his unnerving accuracy. He has consistently managed to curb the runs over his career, despite losing a few yards of pace. With an astounding economy-rate of 3.67, Pollock is one of the most miserly bowlers among the leading wicket-takers in ODIs. That economy-rate is even more remarkable when you consider that Pollock played mostly in an era when bat dominated ball, with bowlers finding it difficult to concede less than five an over.

A rare blue chip | Cricket | ESPN Cricinfo

 

[viriya]

Wasim, surely

Yea after Wasim.

 

[GotSpin]

Damnit. Flash drives at 10 paces or Im leaving!

 

[smash84]

Yea after Wasim.

Yeah, Wasim probably the greatest ODI bowler ever for mine as well.

 

[viriya]

Yeah, Wasim probably the greatest ODI bowler ever for mine as well.

I would say top 3. I rate Murali and McGrath ahead of him.

 

[smash84]

I would say top 3. I rate Murali and McGrath ahead of him.

fair enough. That's not an invalid opinion. A case can easily be made for both of them over wasim.

 

[Red]

Garners the best of all time kids.

 

[smash84]

Garners the best of all time kids.

looks like Wisden disagrees with you, perhaps they aren't just restricted to spread sheets

 

[BigBrother]

Are we going to pretend like Wisden isn't biased in it's ratings like just about everybody else?

 

[Red]

looks like Wisden disagrees with you, perhaps they aren't just restricted to spread sheets

My opinion on Garner being the best of all time has little to do with spreadsheets.

And I can't even use excel so whatever.

 

[Red]

All nations

Australia

- Adam Gilchrist +
- Mark Waugh
- Ricky Ponting *
- Dean Jones
- Shane Watson
- Mike Hussey
- Andrew Symonds
- Shane Warne
- Brett Lee
- Nathan Bracken
- Glenn McGrath

Maxwell might push for Symonds' spot in the future, and I'd imagine in 12 months Starc will overtake Bracken.

England

- Marcus Trescothick *
- Nick Knight
- Ian Bell
- Kevin Pietersen
- Neil Fairbrother
- Paul Collingwood
- Joss Buttler +
- Ian Botham
- Andrew Flintoff
- Graham Swann
- Darren Gough

Open to discussion on this one, no idea how to balance it correctly. England are pretty mediocre at ODI. Collingwood included because I think he plays a role that is needed. Maybe Thorpe over Fairbrother?

West Indies

- Chris Gayle
- Gordon Greenidge
- Viv Richards
- Brian Lara
- Clive Lloyd *
- Carl Hooper
- Jeff Dujon +
- Darren Sammy
- Michael Holding
- Joel Garner
- Curtly Ambrose

Hard to balance again. Maybe Marshall over Sammy (but Sammy is a good bat). Gayle, Viv and Hooper share the 5th bowler duties.

 

[viriya]

All nations

Australia

- Adam Gilchrist +
- Mark Waugh
- Ricky Ponting *
- Dean Jones
- Shane Watson
- Mike Hussey
- Andrew Symonds
- Shane Warne
- Brett Lee
- Nathan Bracken
- Glenn McGrath

Bevan can't even make Aus ODI XI thaz cold.

 

[OverratedSanity]

He hates Bevan's abilities.

 

[NZTailender]

Open to discussion on this one, no idea how to balance it correctly. England are pretty mediocre at ODI. Collingwood included because I think he plays a role that is needed. Maybe Thorpe over Fairbrother?

Tbf Collingwood would be 2nd batsman pencilled into the list after Tresco. Arguably England's greatest ever ODI player given his all-round capabilities. Unlike most Englishmen to play ODIs, he actually got the format.

 

[NZTailender]

England

- Marcus Trescothick *
- Nick Knight
- Ian Bell
- Kevin Pietersen
- Neil Fairbrother
- Paul Collingwood
- Joss Buttler +
- Ian Botham
- Andrew Flintoff
- Graham Swann
- Darren Gough

Open to discussion on this one, no idea how to balance it correctly. England are pretty mediocre at ODI. Collingwood included because I think he plays a role that is needed. Maybe Thorpe over Fairbrother?

1. M Trescothick
2. I Bell
3. I Trott
4. K Pietersen
5. A Flintoff
6. P Collingwood
7. J Buttler+
8. I Botham
9. G Swann
10. D Gough
11. B Willis

ftr

 

[watson]

looks like Wisden disagrees with you, perhaps they aren't just restricted to spread sheets

It is highly unlikely that anyone would just use a 'spread sheet' or just use their 'unguided opinion'. I think it fair to say that we all blend the two.